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Correct, it stops to much movement and if the spring fails also stops the saw failing altogether ! i.e. breaking any other springs. I've only broken one mount, the one above the fuel tank and that was due to operator error me ! I have two 576s and both have done a fair bit of work with no problem and run 8 tooth rims upto 24" with no problem.
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I'm taking it that your bar is a Husqvarna "badged" oregon power match ? so Rob can supply a oregon tip that will fit. A very easy job, just one rivet to knock out just be sure to use a good solid base and have the bar flat as you peen over the new rivet. I tend to go through a few tips as a lot of my cutting is big nasty spruce with tip destroying tension built in ! more so after a harvester driver has had a go and rolled the tree around like a croc rolling a hippo carcass ! Oregon do replacement nose kits for their lam bars but I don't know anyone doing one.
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Ok it is a 2013 bottom end and has the short version which is bolted up to a older 75cc top end. The 576 has two lenths of securing bolt not sure about 372s , have a look at the IPLs again ?
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My" 375"XP has the short version on its Walbro carb, but I'll check when I've had tea and gone back in if it is the XT case as I'm not sure. The guy that built it for me used some XT stuff handle etc
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Panther chainsaw milling - post your feedback and pics here :)
outinthewood replied to Rob D's topic in Panther Mill UK
Morning Rob, just having a break and saw your post. It was the first thought - drilling through the plate - but the problem is the 2" dia mounting on the bottom of the post. It's a great mount and we don't want to hack it to bits and have to do away with the magnet. You only really need one PH to move so I have a little plan which I'll have a stab at this weekend. Feel free to move the other couple of videos I posted on my youtube -outintewood- here if you like Rob. -
Panther chainsaw milling - post your feedback and pics here :)
outinthewood replied to Rob D's topic in Panther Mill UK
Good evening Rob, use it as you like - it's a great product. I've posted another couple of videos since that, a nice Beech and a very nice Cedar. The Hyperskip really is a big help and as you say it allows you to control whats going on not like a "normal" chain ! The only niggle I have to sort out is the problem of using a front tension system i.e. 090 or my 2101 XP but I think I may have a cunning plan ! Bear in mind I've been playing with the 576 XPs with 8 pin rims which the Hyperskip allows. -
I'm sure you have ,but, the oiler is set to max flow ? checked the filter in the oil tank and there is a good flow at running speed from the oil pump ? The 084 is pretty good oiler and they have no problem running a 60" standard so a extra 4" shouldn't be a big deal. If it's a new chain it could just be that in common with a lot of milling "kits" the DL count is given as a cover for a couple of models and maybe not an oiling problem just an extra link too many for your 084 ? As a rule of thumb one DL is around 1/2" of chain so be a little careful knocking them out, you should have 7/8 free links free at the end of the bar . I say 7/8 since Husqvarna and Stihl do vary a bit due how far the bar studs are from the sprocket. I'm trying two 576 XPs on a 72" bar and no problems so a 084 should almost wash a 60" !
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Panther chainsaw milling - post your feedback and pics here :)
outinthewood replied to Rob D's topic in Panther Mill UK
At last got our Panther together, minus the winch !, and did a quick run just to see how it all went and very pleased ! The Hyper skip is a great chain and as an experiment ran the 72" with 2x 576 XPs with 8 pin rims in a very knotty bit of Pine and it was a good job. I uploaded a video to my Youtube channel- outinthewood- my signal is pretty basic so if anyone wants to drag it here feel free ! -
No I don't think Rob is a smug guy ,but, sometimes a re-read is handy before you post ! I've never met Mr D in person but have spoken to him many times and bought a bit of gear from him and he is a gentleman which is why I thought his first post to the OP was a little odd and not the way I would have expected him to react. Rob with regards to the Panther I will let you know when we have got it 100% set up and it's nothing bad just a couple of things which like all new gear have un-expected niggles !
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Good evening Mr Rob D , I have to say that is a pretty smug post ! I'm not taking anyones side or blaming anyone for lack of oil and would have to say that in most cases of lack of oil it is down to operator error... however as the sole agent for Sugi bars I would have expected a little more customer service not customer slapdown ? I have found that Sugi bar tips are very brittle but thats just the way they are so don't buy any more, you don't make them you just import them. I would have thought education would be better than telling us how much you sell ? I'll be doing a little video on the Panther I just got from you and I do hope you take the small points I raise with a little more grace .....
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If it's something you think you will get good use out of then why not ? I've been getting saws from the USA and Canada for over 7 years now and as long as you realise that you may have to pay some tax and duty then anything else is a bounus ! Over here we have a fairly strict system, package arrives is straight into customs at the postal HQ and if it is over 150 euros then you are charged a very small import duty and then VAT on the purchase and postage cost and you pay the postman on delivery. My first saw over 7 years ago had me getting a "clearing" agent which cost £60 ( we still had £'s then ) plus the costs ! thankfully the system has become much more customer friendly ! The only saw I ever lost was from the UK and did have one go missing for a few days last year but it made it through so instead of the normal 4/6 days for a saw it took nearly two weeks that was a little worrying on something that cost "150 euros" .......
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I'll just say that the question is "big saws on the market" not still in production for us in Europe..... so if you really,really need that power etc then find yourself a 090 and if you really, really, really just must have that power then a 090 G with a proper 090 top end ( G's came with the 107cc as standard). I can't see anyone here or pretty much anywhere other than a rainforest where you are felling "Big" hardwoods that needs that amount of bulk to lug around when a 661-395 or their older stablemates will not do the job ? Get them ported and away you go, I have a 3120,084, 2x090, 090G and a Contra S and I dont even get them out for anything other than milling and even then 2x 2101 on a double ended bar is an easier job !
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In that case just go on to Ebay, there is a guy who sells the falling spikes you want I cannot remember full details except I had done a general search for Husqvarna parts. He is USA based but probably as quick as ordering from UK. His price was good no rip off. I find it very strange that a part for a saw -562- is not avalible from your local dealer as the saw is in the local line up ?
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Did the part number I looked up for you not work ??? It is very easy go to the local dealer and order the parts, you are only in Holland not the far side of the moon !
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I'm suprised no one has come in with the old "if it was sharp you don't need spikes " comment which is to an extent true, any "older" members will rember when anything upto 60cc ish would just have a bumper fitted - didn't the 630 come with both a bumper and small felling spike ? Anyway, yes a good not over large set are helpful more so on rough ground where just staying on your feet is hard work and you can let the saw do it's thing. You do lose a bit on the bar but just go up a bit i.e. 22" instead of 20". By the way yes you can get an outer spike for the 560 just as already said.
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The pleasure in cutting standing Sitka Spruce
outinthewood replied to difflock's topic in General chat
Cocconut oil ! ok you may smell like a Bounty bar but better than a gone off burger after you've covered yourself in mayo !!! -
Ok eddystihl here is the part number for the "wrap handle" felling spike kit 576 87 30-02. Do get your dealer to check that number before ordering just in case something has changed or I have made a mistake !
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Look up the part number on IPL and order from local dealer. They are a very good arrangement as they hold the saw very well when you are perched on a steep ditch etc ! but don't catch up on snedding as they sit in well.
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I'm told to expect mine in about 4 weeks, not sure on the 565 which looks interesting - the caps seem to be removable ..... so if it's the same as the 365 XT maybe a "easy" conversion to 572 ? As for a old style ported 372 keeping up with stock 70cc saw I would be pretty dissapointed if the ported saw didn't keep up with it !
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Well I don't have any theories only stating things as I find them with regards to my saws running which on the whole I find they do a very good job at doing ! Eddy are you sure about the carb issue for 070/090 ? I have a reasonable understanding of them and have never seen more than one part number for the Tillitson HS (?) carb which was fitted from day one of the Contra etc. ?
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The 572 has by all accounts had 4 different "set" ups before it's launch , info from folk involved in testing out in the US but I don't suppose we will ever know ! I asked a couple of years ago why the 576 didn't have the "plug in" feature and was told that an updated version would have ,but, things moved on and I see the 576 and 372 XT are now gone from our model line up. I just did as search for fault codes and how to use Husqvarna AT and I'm sure I ended up downloading from Cdn Husqvarna site. Look last night as I was making the post but it's just the pdf no particular info.
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Eddy I found a list of codes on I think the CDN Husqvarna site but I will check back , it was a pdf down load and proved interesting. It gives a full explanation on how the system works i.e. fuel numbers and on of the most common "faults" with the magnetic sensors. If you pm me I'll try to send it to you if you want ? I did a search of "husqvarna fault codes" and "how to read / use Husqvarna AT diagnostics" I did not do a good job of explaining myself with regards to the running rich thing I should have said I expected a AT to run rich due to the AT over compensating unlike a nonAT saw needing as a rule to be richened up. I made the remarks about the little quirk my 560 has to see if anyone else has noticed any other little things, not a disscusion on how well a saw runs but to draw a conversation on how a well used day to day AT saw runs and that conversation gives us all a better understanding of this "new" type of saw as like it or not it's just how it is going to be from now on !! My understanding is that the 572 is in it's 4th generation of software before launch so maybe this conversation will be null and void soon ?? Here is to "perfect" running .....
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Now a few points to clearup, I would agree with you that the larger airfilter should cause the 560 to run rich as it would by doing the same on a non AT without any adjustment to the H needle saw but the AT seems to just cope fine . My comment about it seeming to be looking for fuel only happens after a long hard cut and if it happens it's for a split second as the cut is finished and throttle released and as I said "it seems to be looking" It has just been a odd little thing for the last 3 yrs ! When I said syncing I would have been better to use the word mapping as I wonder if the 562 is slightly changed in it's set up , a trip to the ipl in order ! I plugged my 560 after changing air filter and doing muffler mod and as you found nothing to report but having down the same with several others that had come in for repair I found it interesting on a couple of saws that had serious fault codes were still running so as has been noted in other threads the very simple AT can almost mask a serious problem . I have seen a 576 that had never had the air filter cleaned and only stopped and died when part of the filter was sucked in and the same guy also killed a 550 in the same way, it died before the filter imploded. He said he didn't know you had to clean them !! Both in the same week.
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This is what I was saying, release throttle and it is a little confused . During WOT is ok and the "looking for fuel" only happens for a very short time. I have the diagnostics on my laptop and it's interesting to see what error codes pop up ! One of the companys I cut for are also a Husqvarna dealer so had a chance to get to know the system . Not the same on the 562 so the AT must in sync with the larger ( increased airflow ) airfilter.My two ported 562's have no issues. Not a problem on the 576, change to larger airfilter and US spec muffler and AT just takes it in it's stride and by all accounts the 572 will be a lot "smarter" I mentioned the "looking for fuel" as it's interesting to see what peoples accounts of these saws are, a few years in and a few changes to carb and software and we are still learning .....
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I would suggest someone missed a meeting whilst thrashing out what was required between bearing supplier (SKF I'm told ?) and Husqvarna on the early ones ? and perhaps someone in design had a little rethink on the mapping later on ? I don't know about them using "much" less fuel, less yes but of course going over the top on oil i.e. 40-1 etc can also cause heat retention ? Without doubt the cooling slot added in 16 is a huge improvement along with fully syth oil, add in the gutted muffler , however, on the 560 adding the 562 type air filter seems to sometimes leave the saw "looking" for fuel. On long duration cuts it would seem to be looking for a little more on the over run and this leads me on to my guess that the 562 has a revised map on the chip as I don't get that "feeling" . I don't mean it's running lean but I suspect not far off !