trigger_andy

Thank you! Growing up with an Old Man in the trade and meeting all his hippy mates Im yet to see one drop off due to saw dust. Im not saying its not an issue but as covered on this forum within the last couple of days Im, highly likely gonna die for eating Beaver im not sure I need worry about wood particles.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tax/news/chancellor-sunak-eyes-national-insurance-hike-return-self-employed/

Well there's that too. The UK sector is in a seriously bad way right now. Ive buddies all over the globe seriously worried about their jobs. No one going to work, no planes flying means no demand for Oil, as you well know. But again looking at the NHS, do they look after their nurses? They are on peanuts for what they do. A qualified position, with real and increasing dangers and 24/7 BS from Drunks and they are paid something like £20k a year? Thats not even the bottom of the ladder and they are getting royalty shafted. I wish the bloody Council was privatised. A bigger shower of cunts you'll not see. Make those twats fight it out for contracts and need to economise.

100% Maybe we'll start training our youth again? We need 800,000 warm bodies to get the harvests in this year. This is a perfect opportunity for these farmers to pay UK folk a wage that reflects the living expenses we have here in the UK and not in Bulgaria. Id happily pay more for the produce knowing that.

I get that. I used to think the same. The thinking is sound, private companies are only interested in the shareholders, not the people they 'serve'. Being State owned the companies only goal would be to provide the best service to the customer. The thing it will never work like that. We just have to look at the NHS and how its ran to think what a disaster nationalizing the above services would be. Half a million in the NHS on over £100,000 a year. I never even realised they had that much employees. The NHS pays ridiculous amounts for things like paracetamol compared to what it costs in tesco. Nationalise the Trains and we'll see variable force applicators being bought for eighty quid a pop. We just have to look at the industry we're in. Why does Shell, BP, ENI, Equinor not have their own Well Services, Catering, Drilling, Production, and Diving crews? Even in light of the fact all these services needing to turn a profit its still cheaper and more efficient for the operators to have all these service companies fighting over contracts. It drives technology, keeps prices at an absolute minimum and ensures efficiency. Where these services to be apart of the Oil Companies these services would become bloated and inefficient. I seen a documentary on the Rail Service a few years ago and it had past National Rail guys from Mechanics to Managers echo the same sentiments. Wish I could find it. I'll keep looking.

Surely NI will only be on the 'take home' part? And it should absolutely be inline with PAYE!

Well thats very true. But with a raft of measures being put in place to allow the deferral of mortgages, rent, MOT, loans, gas, electricity etc what little some of us might have put by should see us good for food right? These are gonna be tough times, do we want wrapped in cotton wool? Are we now asking for a Nanny State?

I got it. And Eddie your prediction was uncanny. You sure know your onions.

There is no simple answer to this. Seems like people in all departments in government are working around the clock to get their ducks lined up so people can get assistance. People are dying in their droves and here we are moaning that money is not thrust in our lap instantly. Thankfully, like any responsable adult we've all put money aside for a rainy day, right?

Is that where they keep all the Corbynista's?

Dont I know it.

I posted that before. Was not best appreciated.

No, you'll get 80% of what money you used to live off of and pay your rent/mortgage, buy your food, pay your electricity and gas etc.

I think that kinda sums up why people are not so bothered about SE folk.

Damn! Might need to go buy a van.

Would you say thats a fair or unfair thing? Its is ending up just like the vat drop then hike.

I thought we've been asked to keep politics out of it?

Can you pass on my thanks, please? Shes doing an amazing and often thankless job and they deserve so much respect. The Americans often thank passing Armed Forces Personnel with a 'thank you for your service' right now (as always) the NHS workers deserve the same level of respect and gratitude from us. I think with 400,000 people volunteering to assist in this pandemic shows how much the UK truly appreciated the work they do.

Whats the increase gonna be?

Yeh, I can see that coming for everyone really. Remember that ruse the government sold us when they dropped VAT down to 15% from 17.5% to stimulate the economy and then soon raised it to 20% and no one batted an eye lid? I can see this ending up much the same way. Everyone gets free cash for a few months then will happily repay that with higher tax 100 fold over.

For sure! As long as we're following the guidelines from each respective country I say crack on!

With 5 people responding to the Poll it was kinda dead in the water anyway.

Off-shore only as phones are banned from the worksite. Hate wearing a watch at the best of times. Always said Id get myself a nice one when I turned 30, then it was when I turned 40, maybe when I turn 50?

If we all followed your example the would would be a much better place, thats not sarcasm either. Unfortunately when you delve a little deeper the amount of raw materials and components inside the items you mention that originated in China will be surprisingly high.

But I believe welfare conditions had to improve after? Also what the cows where fed after had to change? IIRC the cows where being fed reprocessed dead cows, or was that an urban myth? But even the fact we have to cull the beef earlier means we're making the required changes to ensure that a chance of another CJD outbreak is minimized.