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So mull you of all people ie a full on left wing socialist snp bollocks supporter thinks metering water would be a good idea. Talk about awkward for the sake of awkward. On this one I think all compulsory use of meters would do is give water companies the chance to make more money. Anyway check your council tax bill you will see you already do pay for the provision of it ffs.

Well 42 as much as you try to belittle those whom have questioned anything from day one with wisecracks like “ mythical great lie” the fact still stands that a serving minister at the heart of government throughout the whole thing is as much as telling you they frightened the likes of yourself into meek compliance. Read back over the early covid thread posts and you will find references to a work colleagues mother whom is a consultant cardio vascular surgeon, she on the verge of retirement went back on the wards at the beginning of the covid farce( due to surgery being suspended) and has maintained throughout that the over reaction, the nightingale hospitals, the MSM and government propaganda etc etc has been nothing more than an utter disgrace and waste of billions. But as with Mesterh and his mocking I don’t expect you to ever acknowledge the fact you might just have been a tad overzealous with your defence of all the crap put in place for the past two years. As an aside here I am knowing dozens of people whom have had covid pre and post vaccination of all ages including myself twice, and the reality is I still do not know anyone whom has died because of covid. I don’t care about the actions of the likes of yourself or others that bought into it wholeheartedly and without question, what bothers me right here and now is the current state we are in and the fact that a huge part of it was totally avoidable if people had just stoped and thought about much of what was done and where it was heading eventually.

He’s spoken a lot of sense throughout this whole farce.

Andy at the end of the day if even the words of someone at the heart of the government throughout this farce doesn’t start people to at least question a few things then what’s the point.

As much as most of what’s in that article was blatantly obvious to many from day one the fact he admits scare tactics were utilised to terrify people into compliance is surely enough to make even the anxious covid cowards wake up. My own opinion is he’s reading the mood of those out there who now realise they had the piss taken out of them big time, and throwing his hat in the “ I knew it was a mistake all along” camp. 42, Mesterh and Co !!!!!! genuinely, how you are gonna ignore the statement of an individual whom was at the very heart of government throughout this farce.

Debacle Mark !!!!!! No mark as I’ve said several times before you don’t have sole insight into such things. You forget I grew up a few miles from you in a mining village and left school just after the miners strike so I’m fully aware of what damage politicians of all parties can do. You asked the question then answered for me Mark 🤷‍♂️ Could you not wait !!. The point of my gripe with the covid reaction is the speed at which they managed to turn things around and the actual amount of money involved and the way people bought into utter stupidity so willingly. Remember the killing granny quotes Mark ??. Utter utter shit. There’s a few on here whom should be keeping their heads down big time for the crap they supported and where it brought us. Just thought I’d stick the last pic on as a pretty good description of the current mess we are in and how we got there.

Finnish politics is as clean and boring as it’s possible to be. To be honest I think the opposite in as much as it proves again what lying ott sensationalist arseholes most media outlets are and public opinion will be on her side for it, the media has become all powerful nowadays and seems to revel in pulling people down or scaremongering.

Or indeed the fact many people ( not all admittedly) are waking up to the fact they had the piss taken out of them for the past two years. 3 of the 4 countries you mention were notorious for full on hardcore restrictions 🤷‍♂️Coincidence maybe.

Might be of use to someone on here.

The current topic on here is intrinsically linked to the lunacy of the past two years. Are we not supposed to acknowledge the damage that has been done and where it has led us. No point in crying about big companies and banks etc when many many people whom warned of the consequences were utterly ignored. I know things can’t be changed the utter stupidity and waste we witnessed is indeed now historical but as stated our current situation is in a large part a direct result of that. If a few want to bury their heads in a bucket then crack on.

So so predictable not the wrong thread at all although you’d love it to be so, I don’t drink 42 and haven’t for a long time and on top of that I’m offshore so as usual you are way way off the mark. Genuinely do you really think the current situation is not related in any way to the past two years stupidity??? If so you must be utterly deluded.

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It’s a big cross to bear Andy but I’m sure you’ll cope 👍😂

Come on42 realistically what on gods earth did you think was gonna be the long term repercussions of, BBL and associated defaults, Furlough schemes to pay people to stay at home, self employed grants etc etc never mind the billions wasted on useless PPE,Testing and quite frankly vaccines of to say the least dubious effectiveness 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️come on actually think about what was done here for a minute 😞. What a lot of that madness you backed achieved was to allow these so called parasites to get back into a position ( or redistribute billions) where they can increase their profits at a monumental scale. I’m pretty sure a few on here warned of the folly of what was being done and again I’m pretty sure a good few more on here defended it all absolutely wholeheartedly and ridiculed anyone whom questioned a single thing “ tin hat being the favourite “didn’t they 42. I really wish there had been a opt in opt out choice where you can play the mad game if you are terrified and believe the bollocks but at the end you have to pick up the tab, whereas if you don’t buy into it and just go about your business, possibly catch covid and get on with things as the overwhelming majority did, you are exempted from the mess and costs that must surely follow 2 years of utter utter stupidity.

No Andy unfortunately not. Sadly many medical professionals were censored throughout the farce when they warned of the likelihood of events as described in this article. Those whom bought into it with a zeal verging on fanaticism will never have the guts or character to admit they made fools of themselves. As time goes by I’m more and more convinced that in the future people will look back at this and think the world went utterly nuts for 2 years. Covid 19 “the jobsworth and opinionated wankers fantasy come true”

I’m trying to think of the last major headline grabbing water storage or collection project ??. I remember Kielder from my childhood but not much since. Maybe it’s time to follow in the footsteps of our Victorian forefathers and create some reservoirs rather than giving water companies the option to meter water and make even more profit. I’ve been fortunate enough to dive and carry out maintenance on some stunning dams and draw off towers over the years from that era, ( Yorkshire water had by far the best examples)the workmanship and skills involved in their construction was absolutely staggering.

Read the tone and content of your reply and then tell me it’s not Both condescending and patronising in the extreme !!. Bear in mind the access to information you have and that which a woman in her seventies did during her lifetime.

I’m lucky in as much as I’ve got a borehole and on a couple of occasions I’ve lined up glasses of bottled versus water from the well and invariably people will pick the bore hole water as being nicest. I’ve been reading a lot lately about increasing levels of dementia ( due to my mother’s situation) in the western/developed world and research about additives in foodstuffs nowadays. I know the die hard follow the science disciples will think it’s conspiracy bullshit but do a bit of digging and you will soon get your eyes opened.

The current madness you see regards energy prices being hiked would be exactly the same with water meters if implemented. Be careful what you wish for, essential services such as water being an even more profitable business than it already is ( masquerading under environmental credentials) for companies that only has one driving force ie profit is a dangerous road to go down. As was the case throughout the last couple of years of stupidity a targeted sensible approach and educating people has to worth a try rather than sledgehammer nanny state approach.

Water companies would no doubt see the pound signs before their eyes spinning wildly, maybe those very same companies should be held to account in regards leaks and avoidable losses.

5-16 in two cases and yeah they did which is why I pay tax on my earnings is it not, im paying vat on just about everything I buy including fuel, house, energy, heating oil etc etc much of which the government is already taxing too, so whilst I know you like to disagree with me Mick but the system is hammering those whom are trying the hardest to get on.

Mick I totally agree with having to put into the pot to get out, I’ve never claimed family allowance or taken any freebies for any of my kids, the ones whom went the uni route have cost me a fortune and are stuck with large student debt themselves. I pay income tax and NI and have done all my life (55 now) 32years in commercial diving game a lot of the time on sched D North Sea taxation so my NI pot is way off the upper scale. My gripe is the level at which the 41% kicks in up here and the struggle or barriers put in place to keep you toiling.

Nearly half my wage after 43600 41% plus NI averages out in my case at 48-49% that’s near enough half to piss me right off. The money earned before that is basically survival income as far as I’m concerned. Whilst we bicker and point out mathematical inaccuracies the system continues as it’s designed too do ie keep us toiling away to maintain the status quo. Keep working and trying and the simple fact is you get closer and closer to half your wage in tax. Where’s the incentive??.

I earn what I earn by grafting my arse off for a min 14 hrs a day 7days a week offshore trying to get on in life. 43600 is not a big wage as far as I’m concerned. The tax bands in Scotland are in place to favour the SNPs power base and nothing more. As Andy says why should I be penalised for working hard in regards my tax free allowance. It’s like you have listened to Sturgeon referring to those who are earning over £43600 as the richest 10% in society 🤑 designed to do nothing g more than generate envy or put it another way divide and conquer. 25% flat rate across the board after 15k tax free allowance would be my answer 👍👍simple and easy to sort out.

The 41% plus NI tax hit after £43600 in Scotland does a very good job of keeping you in your place or indeed discouraging you from working hard past a certain point. I’ve spent years working away or offshore and missed a huge part of my 6 kids growing up for what ??? To give nearly half to utter fools🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️. Not sure if money changes who you are class wise I’ve been skint and also earned a six figure plus yearly wage, didn’t make much of a difference on my part I feel. I still put the overalls on in the morning and get on with stuff either way.