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Yes Abraham on mount Moriah. He was stopped from sacrificing Isaac at the last minute. God provided a substitute. A substitute..,,, you are very correct. [emoji106] Timon.

In short, Jesus is the real deal because of his resurrection (and the fact that it is possible to experience his resurrection life right now and enter into a living relationship with him) No other religion offers this. Timon.

Good evening Graham [emoji106] There are no passages in The Bible that glorify child sacrifice. The "genocide" instructions you refer to were specifically for a certain time in history to rid society of a people group (in the Middle East strangely enough!) who were steeped in devil worship and child sacrifice. As you have pointed out mate, The Bible as the inspired word of God IS an amazing book and I and many others have found it to be truly life changing. The thing is, it deals with things like evil, the inherent sinfulness of man and the realities of living in a very messed up world. It's not a fluffy bedtime read for sure. Shalom! Timon.

Good post Mark. [emoji106] Timon.

Don't agree with you..... Christianity only really effects change when taken on a personal level. For example, as an individual, if we try to live out Christian values in our own personal lives. Loving our neighbour Helping the widow Feeding the orphan Protecting the weak and vulnerable Putting others first etc.. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you etc. It changes our lives on a personal level but has a positive impact on those around us. You can't impose faith or belief on people or society as a legislation. "Human Rights" when applied in the ECHR sense collectively across society has had some really negative consequences. The "rights" of the individual takes precedence over the greater good and safety of society. You only have to look at the fiascos of Abu Hamza, Anhem Chowduray et all, and countless number of criminals who we have not been able to deport or lock up because of the twisted rulings from the ECHR. Human Rights should be applied so that the greater good of society takes precedence over the individual. Timon.

How ironic that you would attribute clarity and reason to a Muslim, albeit a moderate one. [emoji848] Timon.

Winston Churchill warned against the negative impact of Islam. It's a bit late now, it's already happened. Reversing its consequences in this country is going to be a bit like trying to squeeze toothpaste back into the tube. I think it's quite tragic listening to people who still want to defend it as if it's a good thing. Timon.

Do loads of work for Muslims myself (after the obligatory haggle of course) Some of them seem very nice and hospitable. I don't like the Islamic ideology that's all. I can't think of even three good things that Islam has brought to these shores. That still doesn't mean I have a "phobia". Timon.

Large oak light reduction and thin. Very hot work. Timon.

A phobia is an irrational fear of something. What I think of Islam couldn't be described as a phobia. It's a reasonable dislike., Timon.

Me and the Mrs went to Rome for our 5th anniversary last year. There were quite a few military patrols/posts on the streets there. I have to say it was quite reassuring. The days of the "bobby on the beat" are distant history now. I think it's high time we saw some proper security presence on the streets and I'm not talking about coppers with semi automatics. Timon.

Human civilisation will not truly prosper until religious faith is rejected in favour of reason. Good evening VI, Long time no see. Didn't Stalin try that? Timon.

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If a dog bites a child we put it down. These people are far worse than dogs. Rockall would make a good prison island for extremists, be a lot cheaper to run than Guantanamo too. Timon.

New robust anti terror legislation should render suspects and perpetrators ineligible to recourse the ECHR. The ECHR is only for humans after all. Timon.

Our Greenmech is still for sale Jonny! Just been refurbished too.. weighs 850kg I think it would ride quite high, especially if you removed the legs! Plenty of power to blow the chip over the roof and the spout would be on the correct offset. [emoji106]. Just throwing it out there, mate. Timon.

Bin thinking a lot about this today, despite the varied political and non/religious/spiritual viewpoints represented on here, it seems that most of us on here are pretty much on the the same page when it comes to the murder of British children by Muslims. For starters it should be illegal to access/view/download or possess any kind of Islamic extremist material online. Punishable with hefty sentences and deportations. It wouldn't solve the problem but it would be a start and would send a message. The current anti-terrorism laws should be given real teeth. Timon.

There's a lot we could learn from the Israeli's, the luvvies and the lefties would love that though! [emoji41] Timon.

The point I was making is that every Muslim faction has seen how the Palestinians have gained acceptance and credibility through violence and murder and drawn the conclusion that violence (or Jihad, to use their own terminology) is the way forward. I agree, this world is a mess. Timon.

You only have to look at advancement and sympathy towards the Palestinian "cause" at the UN and among the left wing, which has been won expressly through the very same means that we are now experiencing in this country. to reach the sad conclusion that terrorism does win and it is not going away any time soon https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10409/terrorism-persists-because-it-works Timon.

My interpretation of The Bible is certainly imperfect and admittedly a work in progress, but I do try, at least, to look at "the whole counsel of scripture". I could quite easily extract single passages out to support just about any given viewpoint. Timon.

These verses were specifically written in and for a time when certain people groups were sacrificing their own children in fires and participating in devil worship. Apparently God wasn't too chuffed with it and wanted to stop people doing it You're not the first person to quote The bible out of context to push an argument or a particular viewpoint. The theological term for it is called eisegesis, as opposed to exegesis which is the study of and dissecting scripture passages to determine their true meaning within its intended context. Not looking for a fight or an argument, I just wanted to point it out. [emoji106]❤️ Shalom! Timon.

Or in case the police turn up on site cos you're using a zigzag on SRT.... I notice you kept the RW out of the photo too. 🤥 Timon.

A friend of mine has a Christian ministry that reaches out to Muslims. It's called "Mahabbah" which is Arabic for "Love". I went to one of their seminars recently. The speaker explained the Koran teaches that a Muslims only certainty of getting to heaven or paradise is to kill themselves (along with others, of course) in Jihad. No wonder so many young Muslim men and women are getting sucked into this evil ideology. I wonder how many Muslims would be willing to tear the pages that command "jihad"out of their Koran? If that were required as part of their "life in the U.K." Test, I wonder how many would still live here? I think the uncomfortable truth that few politicians are willing to face up to is that right at the very core of Islam is an ideology that seeks to take over rather than integrate. That is a something that will never change and anyone that hopes or pretends that it will, is living in deception. Sickened and gutted for last nights victims. RIP Timon.