Logsnstuff
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might as well post someone elses van which was being fitted with the same model crane on an iveco
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We are going similar route but mounted on new sprinter 4x4 medium wb took some pics today of it in the workshop hopefully it will go for type approval next week. it's being fitted by Outreach in Falkirk. 3.8m reach so should be able to reach the back of any trailer we buy and we made sure there was a tacho fitted. We went with a lightweight aluminium bed which is about 70kg lighter than the usual timber and we had them cut the spare wheel carrier off also which gets us close to an extra bags worth capacity.
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this was talked about few months back, from what vosa told us doesnt matter what size vehicle if it has an engine and someone pays you for the goods at point of delivery then it requires a tacho you can carry log rings from a work site back to the yard without a tacho but if you split the rings into logs then you need a tacho to take them back to the yard, doesnt have to exceed 3.5t if you want to say you dont need pm me your details and ill report you and then tell us what vosa say when they pull you
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my bags work out at £125 a cube and I struggle to cover costs through the summer haven't the faintest idea how those others round my area can make a living at £130 for 2.5 cube, I'm also sitting on about £110,000 in stock, had some one email yesterday wanting kiln dried birch I explained ours was a mix birch sycamore ash beech 15% mc air dried,was no good they will only burn kiln dried birch I haven't the time or rather the inclination to start separating hardwoods other than trying to keep the oak out.
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VOSA told us about the exclusion but said it would only apply to equipment not logs, you can carry unsplit rings or pulp back to the yard ok but once its split down to logs the exclusion no longer applies.
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I had 4 bulk bags which were seasoned but rain wet (260kg each by their weigh bridge) + saws 2 ppl and the usual jump leads etc under the seats which meant i was 700kg overloaded or 19.1% which apparently is automatic to court. with the long wheelbase van its got a low capacity I'm considering whether i can take the doors off the back to reduce weight and strip all the lining out of it maybe dump the bench seat and go down to just a driver
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police reckon because it was them that pulled me not vosa on the overloading I can expect £80 fine but had it been vosa they could do up to £5,000 I'm just hoping when it gets to court they decide first offence warning letter I'll hold off on fitting a tacho till I see whether I can find the money to get op license and go 5 ton replacement next year.
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follow the links that have been supplied previous messages but essentially you dont need a tacho for a caravan or if you are towing machinery for use within 50km of base but if your towing goods for sale then you need one. vosa gave us an example if you take a horse to competition but dont win a prize your fine without a tacho if you win the competition and get for example £20 prize you have received a reward and must have a tacho to take your horse away.
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Log sales what % goes to the black economy
Logsnstuff replied to gensetsteve's topic in Firewood forum
all mine has gone through the books intentionally there are a load of tree surgeons around here and a couple of hauliers who do firewood and only take cash, for 6 years I have intended reporting them but I havnt managed to bring myself to do it yet. I know one of them did around 700 tons last year selling 2.5 cube £130 -
you still need tacho if owner driver and you need to apply for a company card and a driver card from dvla
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Thats pretty much what vosa said to me now I'm glad i went for the tacho in the new van £1,500 to get one fitted if I keep the current van. most of the merchants round here are using trailers so it will be interesting to see what happens next couple of months. just gotta wait on the paperwork for cards now something the salesman didnt tell us about. they did say it would be beneficial to get a quarterly service done on the trailer as well curious what you service on one of these other than kick the tyres. plan is with the hydraulic crane i can make delivery and then lift the trailer into the back and reduce the restrictions.
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I've a good idea how the timbers free, several timber hauliers & contractors round this area have gone into the firewood game.
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if hes truck and trailer find out if he has a tacho your not allowed to deliver logs with a trailer without one. and check what weight hes delivering as i said elsewhere i got done last week overloading (700kg) thought i was fine with 4 bags 250kg each but i hadnt accounted my weight or the helper the saws or all the junk under the seats. vans stripped down to bare essentials now but think ill still struggle to manage 3 bags.
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my barrow bags are 0.269 m3
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buy it and tell him you want a weigh ticket with it
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no wonder my customers are disappearing in the borders, I'd burn it myself before selling that cheap. I have to go back 7 years to get my price down to £45 3/4 cube and that price lasted only 2 months before decided they pay more or I find a new job because it just wasnt worth it. Hey Jon i bet your here somewhere these thumbs getting such a workout they r like rottne bolster pins now
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8 cube this week 4.5 cube booked so far next week just waiting for the rush to start have seen some of the glens a little north of here with 3" of snow on the 2nd of august so hopefully it will come soon although 28 degrees today It might be a couple of days off.
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have you got tachographs in your landy's around here they just started cracking down on people if your delivering logs in a trailer you need a tacho. I do free delivery upto 150 miles out which pretty mush covers me from mallaig to peterhead down to A69 A66 if you twist my arm a bit, south of that its by pallet which is charged at cost +£5 for banding n wrapping, I just insist they buy enough bags to justify the mileage.
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and once you get the best quality logs you gotta dodge the rozzers they done me yesterday 4 bulk in the van only 700kg overloaded they just had to stop me on a day with rain wet oak for a guy, just as well it wasnt a 6 bulk day or a 19 barrow bag. now I'm running half loads and 8 weeks its a very long wait on the new van
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2 bulk went out friday, 4 barrow bags and 6 bulk to go out this week so with 0 advertising at the moment I'm a little hopeful of a good season.
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I just try to keep a big enough stock that anything cut since may is for next year so I'll worry about mc then. last years logs measuring between 9 and 12% on oak.
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i tested some of my oak on Sunday was 11.8% and the beech was 10.5%
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I refuse to sell unsplit it's more profitable to do the full job and too difficult to source decent timber to sell cheap.
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I was always told old elm don't touch it was like cutting stone. you could try changing the angle your sharpening the chain but I think you did the right thing and walk away.full carbide chain I tried shattered the teeth on a hard piece of timber might have had a stone embedded never did find out though, the multicut is not a bad in between but I prefer to import oregon LGP from baileys Oregon refuse to sell it in the uk at the moment say theres no demand but its pretty good on clean timber.
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I know how you feel 2 yrs I tried to buy an iveco 4x4 tried 2 dealerships 4 times I was told I couldn't afford to buy it without them even seeing a bank statement and twice they told me to buy a defender with a tipping body so I gave in and ordered another sprinter instead.
