Logsnstuff
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I started off with used tattie boxes and was lucky to get 1 season without some boards coming loose and as I don't do tipper loads is better for me with bags and just collect them on the next order no mess no hassle.
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I get pm's on a diff site from american and canadian firewood merchants who are starting to do bulk bags instead of cords so it's not just the UK. you will also find australian merchants doing bulka bags and bundy bags which are 1m3. I don't sell the air in my bags so maybe I should put another £20 on as im giving something away free of charge atm. Selling by the steer cord etc is outdated, labour costs are to high to hand pack the logs and sell at an affordable price. regulation kills industries just have to look at forestry here the quality of site care and timber going down the roads is shocking, the 4ft high stumps you get now that would have had you fired 20 years ago that's what regulation and certification brought.
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I posted mine on the site last year somewhere, does add extra weight but the conveyor is held with chains, only problem I find is if you are splitting near the max diameter the load of logs going up the conveyor along with the extra weight of the sieve can rock the processor if its not connected to the linkage, I use a 5m conveyor though but I wouldn't run a processor now without one, had too many people complain about the dross in the bags before.
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you will need to watch for them degrading.
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you have to define seasoned that's the issue, a log left in the round for 18 24 months can still be 35%+mc but some merchants will sell it as seasoned on the time it's lay there rather than sticking a moisture meter in it, so someone will eventually have to set a standard % for seasoned some say 20 others 25 at the moment also too many people still sell ton loads based on the payload of the delivery vehicle rather than on volume or the actual weight of the load. I'd say its inevitable that some form of regulation will come in the future.
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Pulp is small diameter goes for chip 2m 3m lengths Pallet is larger as name implies goes for milling into pallets short boards 2.5m then your logs 3.8m 4.2m 4.9m etc only ever seen hardwood pulp referred to as cord on this site.
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no death duties on forests so they wont remove everything
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ye Jon don't like being jealous of the shermans but they got 1 nice log selling winter maybe our turn next year.
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still have most of this seasons in the yard and about 30% done for next seasons quota.
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thanks
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If I went back to harvesting would be softwood and I don't really fancy life back in a caravan/portacabin been there and done that it's the safety net if everything else fails then I'll hide out in the woods. have an old harvester sitting there which could be fixed up enough for a start and the forwarder is still in decent condition although its old.
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forgot to put in I don't do tree surgery landscape gardening or sawmilling just firewood I look to do around 1,000 bags a season making a fiver a bag doesn't really work. around me if you take out the guys working for cash and the usual tree surgeons and gardeners my main competiion with the logs are timber haualage contractors x2 garden nurseries also x2 timber management company and several farmers they can all afford to slash prices and break even on the logs not really an option for me.
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I've paid upto £55 a tonne delivered in £5.50 a bag to store it, the 18 months the money is tied up to season the wood (thats not free), wear and tear depreciation, delivery costs at 14 mpg, insurance,vat, yard rent just to start with of the top of my head I'm sure theres more costs I've forgotten oh ye and the dirty word some profit.
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I have cord coming in from an estate they have felled about 4k tons of softwood and all the pulp and pallet is going through a chipper to fuel their biomass plant, the hardwood was destined for the chipper also until we expressed an interest. Regulation I believe will come in to standardise a measurement for delivery and a mc to be classed as seasoned to begin with, I don't have a problem if it stops there I think that would be beneficial for everyone.
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selling out this winter in this area anyway isn't much of a guide I've been in 4 other merchants yards everyone is sitting with a lot of logs.
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well whether flexing muscles or not we had a letter from their legal dept in Edinburgh that it would be put forward for prosecution until I provided enough evidence that they had published themselves from the fc research that barking was a practice used in firewood production along with half a dozen other examples.
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yep if there's enough trees they will class it a small woodland and you need a felling license. because of the location of what I was doing everything was tpo'd to a watercourse and I was felling on the boundary outside this area so we ringed everything in a morning so if anyone complained they couldn't do anything trees would still have to come down just bad luck the tree warden happened to overlook this garden.
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I had the commission try and prosecute me back in 2010 for ring barking trees in a garden apparently 20 trees makes a wood whether they are in a garden or not, luckily they had similar stuff published and after about 6 weeks they dropped it but the council put tpo's on all the remaining trees they ignored the fact some of the trees were liable to blow and 3 months later an oak smashed 2x 50ft greenhouses.
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as I posted in another topic I use 90x90 bags .73m3 and filled with fresh beech they come in at 498kg only bothered to weigh 2 of them.
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ye and I was told about people doing firewood in highlands paying no tax and buying top of the range processors seems they are known to several harvesting contractors, only way to sell at that price is illegally or at a loss.
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I have a back boiler stove sitting in storage plumber wanted £2.8k to fit it so ill stick with the little morso for now
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How do you dry your timber in the warmer months?
Logsnstuff replied to I-buy-logs's topic in Firewood forum
some of what I have for next season. -
How do you dry your timber in the warmer months?
Logsnstuff replied to I-buy-logs's topic in Firewood forum
I don't try to avoid mould, the mushrooms soon shrivel up once summer is here and just keep the rain off the logs going into year 2 -
just whats needed is yet another merchant round this area
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what should we charge for cut and split dry logs
Logsnstuff replied to I-buy-logs's topic in Firewood forum
these days the lorries halve weigh systems fitted and they only seem to measure half tons if you look at the weigh tickets only ever read 25 25.5 or 26 ton so 16kg 50kg 200kg doesnt matter and logs are sold on volume not weight and in the uk or certainly round here you can still buy in imperial go tescos price tickets have both weights uk had an exemption about selling imperial as long as metric price is also included.
