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Me to, and they have been mostly the younger lads from Myerscough collage who have done the CS30/31 and think it dont mater what i do now i have my ticket,, one lad i told him 3 days on the trot about gripping the front handle with his thumb, end of the 3rd day i said your stopping and we are going to talk about saw safety for 20 mins, he just laughed and said i cant stay my mum will have my tea ready,, so i just said OK then i dont need you tomorrow or the day after, i could not get it through to him that the thumb was so important and its my site your on , your in my employ, but it will be your accident but my headache sorting all the shit out afterwards,,

Its not a forestry thing at all,, its all areas of using a saw and any instructor worth his salt should be telling you thumb round that front handle as it will give you approx 50% more control over the saw in a kickback situation and that could be the difference between a saw hitting your head or not,,

You and Leslie getting your handbags out 😂

And you wrote most of it 😂 You are quoting stuff that i believe you know very little of ? there is some good lads on here who do know what they are talking about and for someone like you to keep mentioning kill, killing, kill, killing, tells us a lot about you with how you word what you write and to post that on a public forum is not a very tackful way of going about things, Now i do know that what i write below is more than likely to get your back up and your going to come back at me with something ? but we do have to face the truth now n then, Dog training, i have breed and trained working labs for 35yrs + now and been involved with training working border collies (sheep dogs ) for 50+ yrs, and yes i am from a farming back ground that goes back to the mid 1800s on one side of my family and the late 1800s on the other side, so i might just know a little about what goes on in the countryside and training working dogs and beating the living day lights out of any dog will not help or cure any problem that the dog may have, but its very clear you have had great success with your methods and you must be the only man on earth who has!!, What you quote above and in your past posts about the killing of dogs in live stock and what would happen in a court of law is very different to what you quote as you have only quoted about the killing and shooting of a said animal in live stock, just have a dig in to the full legal situation with the shooting of a dog and it is not just as straight forward as you think or quote, land ownwer,s,? tennent farmers,? who owns the shooting rights,? who shot the animal ? was there a suitable back stop for the bullet if you missed ? have you evidence of trying to get the dog under control,? was the owner present,? was there a public right of way across the land,? did you have something to tether the dog with on your person,? the shooting of a dog is a very very grey area today as once up on a time it was quite straight forward, all these points above will come in to play in a court of law, the photo below is the only proof i have and i wont say to much about it or who was involved but it lead to a court case and some hefty fines for the land owner who farmed the land and hence he now no longer has his shotguns and firearms, the situation was 2 large dogs of a pointer style where having a bit of fun with some sheep, the dog owner was on his way across the field unseen by the landowner who shot the dog about 100yds in front of its owner, the said owners wife was some distance away but as some one said above nearly every one has a mobile phone today and she filmed the whole incident, so when it all came to court the video was played and there was several practices missing that should of been carried out but wern,t, and as the saying goes what cant speak cant lie, hence the landowner paid the price, Now i do agree with some of what you say, and given my back ground i am all for the shooting of a dog that is clearly worrying livestock i wont say if i have or havent done the deed but i have several family members who have but all on the QT, being tackful about things generally pays off but given the society we live in today as soon as a gun or shooting is mentioned to the local constabulary they will be there in swarms but mention you have just had your car stolen or you house emptied the reply will be we will have a officer with you as soon as we can and that could be from hours to days, Photo is of a prize winning pedigree Texel ewe carrying 3 lambs so what would the lost value be ? who knows and we will never know as the said lambs could of gone on to be prize winning champion Rams that could of been worth tens of 1000s of pounds,

Got this smart arse at the moment, she just sits there and freezes and then waits for the cattle or lambs to come to her, she is very laid back until shoot days, she just sits and waits sometimes for up to an hour or so and waits till there close enough and just licks the snot of the cattles nose, this has become a popular thing during the summer months when there is some young stock in the field next to the yard,

Going in the kitchen now to beat the living day lights out out my dogs as they havent washed up yet,, so that will sort them out and all will be good for the future 😂 😂

Oh be careful there Gary with that dog being so close, as all them Ewes will abort and then drop dead with a heart attack 😂 FFS what a load of shit people talk, by the law of averages there should be no sheep left in the UK by now and i for one must be responsible for the death of 1000s of sheep as my dogs are with me where ever we are working and 99% of the time we are up in them there hills working amongst different livestock all the time,

Should we be using quick release trigger cuts in windblown ? i was taught many years ago by a elderly chap who had worked in forestry all of his working except for what should of been his first 3 working years, but he was posted to North Africa with Montgomery, he taught me and drummed it in to me that only slow release cuts in windblown, as it gives you a chance to see what the tree/root plate is doing, the cuts he taught me i never knew the name of them (thats if they had one at that time) since then i have had to do a windblown certificate and learnt that the cuts used where exactly the same as i was shown 25 years prior but where called a V cut for timber say up to 15" and a J cut for the bigger stuff, step cuts work ok but can cause problems and again can just pop with the tension loaded in the stem, As Spruce pirate said above 2 heads in windblown are better that one, i dont know what any one else clears in a day on windblown but we try to work on any where between 15-25 trees a day each but every site is different and on some we might get 10 each done and the next site might be some smaller stuff and get about 30-35 done each,

This is not to far from me and i read about it last wk in the local rag, its a very popular walk and walking area all round there, I believe the people involved was on the public right of way but had the 2 yappy dogs with them which will not help the situation, We have possibly met the 2 people involved a few years ago when we was repairing some walls, they came across from a public footpath to see what we was doing with the dogs niether on a lead at this time and ewes with lambs in the same field, the 2 dogs in question never shut up yapping and making a beline for my hands when i went to pick a piece of stone up, i said should they not be on a lead, she said they wont touch any thing 5 mins later these dogs where chasing the sheep n lambs, i think what has gone on is a load of bull and no way should that farmer be held resposible for whats gone on ? or is this just another part of the governments plan to get rid of another farmer !!!

What size of bar will a pole saw take ?

Use a roller by all means, creocote is the shit one you can by in the likes of Wickes or B&Q dont bother with that use proper creosote and mix with used oil and if your timber is dry when you do it it will really soak in a dry quite quickly 2-3 coats and it will last a fair few years before it needs doing again,

When i read the thread title i thought it was a new STD that had been discovered 😂 😂

He most certainaly is, i have had some items off him over the years and he definatly knows his stuff, and he is very good to deal with, proper old school dealing with him no bull just talks straight,

Chippers , diggers ,quads and various small plant items that get stolen are easy money for the thieves as said above the law are not interested in it, a farm not for from me here in Lancashire had a 12 mth old quad stolen in 2008 then in 2019 he gets a phone call from the Strathclyde constabulary saying they had recovered his quad and it was being returned to him, when it was returned it only had about 5km more on the clock than it had when nicked, it had been recovered along with about 30 others from a barn in the middle of no where, A mate had a digger nicked that he had welded some extra weight on the ballast weight when he owned it he got this digger back a couple of years ago only through finding it on a plant dealers website down south, the dealer had bought it in a auction in France but when all was investigated it had been reported stolen in Italy, so been stolen in the UK, shipped to Italy, stolen again in Italy, sold in France and shipped back to the UK and now back with its original owner, when i was after a chipper several years ago i looked at a few that had had the ID plates removed OK it might of been a genuine when i asked one lad where is the ID plate he said it was removed for painting and got miss laid, there is a lot of stolen kit out there that is doing a honest days work with someone who is not aware of machines history, Some videos on Youtube i do enjoy watching are the Auto matrix ones when they are recovering stolen items,

Oh dear i think some one is in for a shock with this, title says 8-12 trees and then below it says we want both felling ? is there 2 ,8 or 12 to be removed ? , power lines, telephone cables, dog/chicken run, netting fixed to trees, it all looks like its in a back garden, how is the timber to be got out in lengths ? is there room for a 3 tonne digger ? will the owner allow such a machine in there ? who tidys up the ground when done ? to be honest about it and just looking at all the problems that are there it is not a straight forward job and it is going to cost, from the photos i see 2 stems that would be worth milling but give the timbers location we have to take in to consideration the metal content and washing lines in the timber thus rendering it very very low value, Only thing i see is you pay some one to do the job and get the timber stacked where it can be collected via a self loading timber truck and for that it would need to be in 2,5 mtr lengths min, the only value i see is biomass and for that you might get £45 per tonne to offset against the cost of the job, from the original post i under stand you want trees dissmantled/felled and removed, all brash chipped and removed, stumps ground out and then who ever does the job gives you some money for the timber ?? if you was across the pond that may happen but it wont happen over here, that job is 6-8 k with about £450 worth of timber on site, All i can say is good luck with it and a update would be good see,

If its any consolation to you i can relate to something like that, i broke my ankle in 1980 coming off my FS1E and that did ache during the colder months for many years but i can say i have felt it a lot less in the last 20yrs and know it seems to be very ocassionally it aches,

I think its called getting older, and most will relate to what we have done in the past and how we looked after ourselves when younger, i for one was a billy bunt never listened to any of the older guys i worked with on site and was told dozens of times working in the rain day in day out piss wet through was no good to any one and i would pay for it later on in life 🤒 and here i am

Dont know much about it but had a problem going on in the top of my left arm for near on 12 mth know, been docs and been arsed about in there for 4 mths and then got refared to the MSK team (muscular and skeletal team) since then things have really been addressed, had my first app on 13th dec then got a app for a MRI scan on the 8th Jan, and got the results on 31st Jan, not good but it is how it is, partly detatched tendon, badly torn muscle, other tendons showing signs of tendonitis and just to top it off arthritis in my shoulder joint F - - - - - - G great, was told the tendon and muscle damage can possibly be sorted with some light physio and this may help the tendonitis as well but not the arthritis, so thats something to look forward to as the years tick by,,,

Pitch pine will hold its pine,y smell for many many decades, i have some 6x6 Pitch pine that is off the old big dipper at Blackpool, and when i cut that it smells wounderfull and does for many wks after cutting it, and they where stood up in the salt air from late 1800s to mid 40s i think when it caught fire, could be Larch as there would of been a lot of Larch being used in boat building back then and the boat builders would reject boards with defects and these would go in to the house building trade,

Windblown or storm damage is not for the faint hearted, i think all sizes of trees if windblown fall under the windblown umbrella, as the post above says site requirements to do the accessment require several trees over 300mm and up to 560mm or there abouts, a tree that is uprooted, particialy uprooted, snapped top and hanging tops are all in the windblown category but as with all trees every site is different and what is required on paper for a accessment will be different to what is on site, its not about doing what is on paper its about doing the job safely, we do a fair amount of windblown clearance of all types, some fresh and some that has been down for years they all react very differently, photos below show fresh windblown and some that was down for about 3 years, we have several sites at present that we are going to clear due to the recent storms, good luck but be very very careful if it goes wrong it will hurt or worse,

I think the price tells us all we need to know about them ??? they cant be up to much for £50 each, might last till brew time then get the other one out,,

Just quarter them with a saw, Stand the ring up and cut with the grain, it wont take long with a sharp saw, then on to your small splitter ,,

I once went there 😂😂

I have read the above posts and get what you want as u went through this about 10/12yrs ago and to be honest it was a nightmare making the decision, I looked at new Siromer, Shire and Kioto tractors and i could see faults with all of them with regards to working with timber, I did my homework and came up with a few problems regarding the spare parts avilabilaty, some quoted 4-6 wks for the likes of a starter motor or hydraulic pump and that aint no good to any one, the spares is a massive problem with the Asian built tractors as compared to the Japanese built tractors that have been here in the UK since the 70s, Asian v Japanese I have worked with the Japanese tractors since the early 80s and i cant remember any thing really going wrong with them that could not be fixed in a hour or 2, one company i did a bit of subbying to had a fleet of about 20 compact tractors most where Kubota with a few Yanmars and Isekis, most of them had either deck mowers on or flails on them along with many other implements for grounds care, the company in question got a good deal on 5 Ford 1920s ok at the time a very nice tractor and good to drive but unfortunatly they didnt have them for that long and moved them on, When i was looking i narrowed it down to 2 Kubota and Iseki as Yanmar didnt do one that suited our needs, in the end i made my mind up and plumbed for a Kubota, several reasons for this 1, was the time i spent driving one back in the 80s with no issues and it was not nursed at all, 2, Kubota have stood the test of time and are known for there reliabiaty and being robust, 3, full UK net work of dealers and a good parts back up, In the end i went and bought a Kubota L3250 40hp 4WD it came off a golf course with about 2500 hrs so it had not worked hard at all, i have had it 10/12 years now and its been used and abused but has been trouble free and now has 5500 hrs on it, It starts first flick of the key in all weathers no matter how cold it is, we work it in forestry work which is about the hardest enviroment to put machinery in to but it has stood up to it well, we run a forwarding trailer behind it and a 4.2 tonne winch on it, it is cheap to run and might use about 4/5 gallon of diesel doing a 12hr shift extracting timber, and so far there has been no issues at all with it, So my advise to you would be think very careful about what you buy and dont listen to the bull the salesman is telling you as you have to remember he will be getting a cut out of what he sells you!! Resale value is another thing to think off as well, a tractor is a very versatile piece of machinery that you can add many implaments do and broaden your work scope, one guy i know does tree work all winter and a lot of grass cutting during the summer months with 2 kubota,s, and the best thing i can say is you need to remember is, buy cheap buy twice as i am sure the Siromer i looked at was nice, new and shinny but i am sure it would of not been with us know !!,

Some one above said that stainless dont take a edge, i tend to differ on that one, i have a stainless fileting knife and that does take a edge very well and if i use a stone on it after a steal it is razor sharp, but it dont hold it for very long as its all ways in contact with bone but 5 or 6 stokes with a steal and its back, i would not like to catch my self with it,