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And a lot of people eat McDonald’s but that sure don’t make it good food !!!! I wouldn’t wear them if I was paid an extra £50 a day.....I found them borderline dangerous . But as you say, horses for courses and we are all different ......but I am simply baffled with 20 years climbing past me that people can find these boots grippy ??? Comfort I accept is relative to the end user .

Following an earlier thread, I thought I’d share my very cheap but totally made to measure Home made saw strop. I’ve made a few now over the years and I’ve never had one fail yet. You will need:- 1) a-Some climbers hollow tape webbing (available from climbing shops or e bay about £1.50 per metre x 2metres max) b- some good quality pole fishing elastic . At least 14-16 rating (approx £7 For 5 metres, enough for more than 5 strops) c- a needle and thread (optional) d) a hitch up ring from a retired saw strop. e) karabiner of choice (to be permanently hitched) f) a little patience and dexterity and/or a hissy fit suppressing beer Firstly , cut the first length of tape loop that will girth hitch your ring (missus) and girth hitch through your saw attachment point . The length will depend on your preferences. I’ve found short better. Fasten it together with a ‘beer knot’ . This is basically an overhand knot that you work around the loop until it binds the two ends that have been inserted into one another. It’s really simple and holds really well Then, measure how much tape/strop length your going to need to reach your saw everywhere your going to need to. I allow plenty. Remember you will have already made ring chokered section plus the length of the saw body so allow for these so as it’s not too long. Allow about 9” (23cm) for your knot at each end. Next, using a DOUBLE length of elastic, stretch it to measure at 3/4 stretch the length of the last cut piece of tape loop that forms the body of main strop. Now, thread doubled elastic through tape, pushing it through with a skewer/bent out coat hanger/ET’s finger or the like until it pops out the other end. I then very roughly sew this in with a basic needle and thread just to hold it in place prior to knotting. I then sew the elastic that’s peeping out of the other end in place too. This only needs to hold the elastic long enough for you to make your knots . You might at this stage need that beer before the next bit....., Now, take your krab and tie a Buntline hitch with the bunched elasticated tape at one end, and then tie the other end with a Buntline onto your ring (matron) Girth hitch your first short length onto same said ring and bingo kertchingo , you’ve done it my friend. You made your 19”er into a home wrecking 45” ya big show off Costs excluding krab and your old dirty ringpiece .....approx £5 !!!! (And that includes the beer)

Does anyone know if you can replace the rather mobile lower Velcro straps on these spikes with a leather or alternative version. Mine are knackered and it has always frustrated me that the oblong retaining ring that can twist end on, and the fact the heel strap can slip down under the foot off the heel . Any ideas chaps ?

It strikes me listening to these comments especially Rich Rules , that to have effectively what is a 2 stage sliding work positioning effect : 1 from the front sliding attachment and then the whole caboodle sliding from the rear may seem potentially unpredictable ? Is it not the case that the ability of the rear webbing to slide around the harness that also carries the front attachment , would be impinged dependent on how much weight/pressure is loaded into it by the climbers weight , making it behave differently as loading is imparted in differing amounts as the climbers weight is loaded/ unloaded into the harness back dependent on position ? Also, I’m slightly confused as to why I’d ever need 3 bridges , or for that matter, two sets of side d’s ? I really want to like this harness but thus far I’m remaining unconvinced, and I’ve yet to hear anyone prefer it to the legendary Treemotion . ‘Tis still early days though ......

Now, I know I’ve asked this quezzie before when these harnesses came out, but now they’ve been around for a little while, is anyone using one in the field ?? I’m desperate to replace my Treemotion which has been exceptional , but a change is always refreshing ........as long as it’s for the better.

They are hands down categorically THE worst ever pair of boots I have EVER had the misfortune to own. I quickly relegated them to light duties at home in the garden but even then the grip was non existent and they cut the circulation off in my toes I binned them still with plenty of wear left in them......and that action alone was the best experience of owning these dreadful boots.

Thank you for this Darrin . I’ve got those component parts so can give that a try . Nice action [emoji1303]

That’s me convinced !!! I’m about to break my 17 year old VT marriage and plunge into the new year with a purchase of both the Drenaline and this ‘mechanical prussik’ Devilment of which you speak . Damn you all for making me spend unnecessarily. Bring back three strand rope and tieing in your entire system I say . Oyvay

Try Matt BROOKER from Treesense.com. Super nice guy, very switched on and up to date with tech specs but level headed with his evaluations

I make my own with hollow tape and heavy gauge pole fishing elastic . Use the metal hoop from your old (possibly cut?!!?) saw strop and bunt line the karabiner end . I shall post a picture when daylight permits . A bit less polished than the Reecoil versions obviously, and this isn’t to take away from their fantastic design, but at least it’s cheap and you can customise it to your own lengths matron .

Yes I’m looking at this rope too. Looks good but it’s always nice to get some feedback from users in the field isn’t it ??

Well I would say a hearty thank you to all for helping out with my technical questions, were it not for the fact it is going to cost me 300 greenbacks now in order to experience your love for this little treasure !!! Thank you gentlemen [emoji1303][emoji1307]

A man after my own heart......!!! Are you nearing 50 y/old ??

A man after my own heart......!!! Are you nearing 50 y/old ??

A man after my own heart......!!! Are you nearing 50 y/old ??

Also, how does the Zig Zag cope with lateral stress around branches ? (I have mocked this up to show what I mean....and yes I realise it’s not an ideal route to anchor point but occasionally happens [emoji44])

I think the spliced end must have become ‘compromised’ at some point and had to be removed . I think I’m just going to treat myself to new rope as well !!! [emoji857] I’m liking the sound of ‘compact’ [emoji846]

I really can’t get any love simmering for these new generation clumpy ‘deep sea diver’ boots. They all look like they need a set of crampons on them. I bought a pair of Stein Phantoms and I walked like I’d shat myself . As for tree traction, it didn’t exist. Had to sell them after a month . Meindl Airstreams even worse. Slippy and inflexible beyond belief and cut the circulation to my tosies. I guess it’s all courses for horses and everyone’s different , but give me a pair of Lavaro Sherwoods any day. Traction supremo in any weather and super flexible . Sometimes I’m sure that these new wave boots look better and more technical than they actually perform? I certainly was enamoured by their looks......until I left the kitchen . Perhaps I’m wearing them on the wrong feet ?

I’d be really careful interrupting carbon fibre weave. Usually any drilling or holes tapped into inserts in carbon have some level of bolstering in a loaded area. I’d go for good old bicycle inner tube. Grippy, long lasting, weather proof and carbon protective !!!

Can you use a figure of eight termination knot with a Petzl Zig Zag or does it (or any knot) run the risk of impinging on the mechanics of the Zig Zag ?

This is pant wettingly brilliant . Roaring ?

I’ve worked on a few sights in Coventry over the years that have had a multitude of drugs paraphernalia. Highlights included a needle/excrement/condom/panty filled alley way , an outbuilding that literally had a ‘carpet of syringes’ that a squat had used as their tipping point for said apparatus .....and adorned with some addicts initials sprayed finely on the wall in blood from a syringe !!! Quite the eye opener. And yes I did clear the alley and yes we did always get the job done, but you assess the risks and take a view based on how comfortable you are with such grimness and the associated risks. There’s no heroism in it nor a definitive yes or no answer personally . It’s not what we signed up for at the end of the day is it? It’s a sad indictment when you have to carry a sharps bin in the truck, but that’s the world we live in occasionally . That said, I’d rather that than an upmarket homeowners garden strewn with unnavigable festering dog eggs !!!!

Stanton Hope will have them

Put a 9 sprocket on her instead of the 7 and you'll be flying. Had mine knicked recently but have just rekindled an old retired model with some new bits. Sweet relief. Use it all day and then pick up your 361......makes it feel like a kids toy !!!

A very moving and poignant piece . There for the grace ..... We make so very many cuts each day, under so many testing weather conditions, in some often ridiculously testing positions......battling gravity and traction..whilst often being drained of the energy that graced us at the days start, none of us can ever be complacent, but who can honestly genuinely testify that occasionally they aren't ? It's human nature . My repects to all family and work colleagues affected, and of course to Alex R.I.P