Goaty

Wow the French really are tantrum throwers Ty! Do you really enjoy dealing with such people? Sent from my iPad using Arbtalk

If you'd pruned it regularly it would of looked like a proper joshua tree.

I would counter the secondhand argument by saying if you can get un or hardly used cheap get something to start at college then keep them as a rough set for abusive work such as conifer bashing. It's d vast sting to be sat in a leylandii and snag fancy high priced gear. Also because your starting you can concentrate on the saw work rather than damaging the threads. Then go to an arb shop or apf try the gear and buy what you want when you can afford it.

Yes it happens spend an hour watching YouTube and you will have panic attacks Everytime you hear a 2 stroke strike up.

I have successfully budded rows but mainly done tying. Not surprised at muscle problems, it's a real stretch for the muscles, painful to start with then somehow you just accept and tolerate it. The nursery I've done it at now grafts a lot during winter. Still tedious. A satisfying accomplishment though. Young persons game, just finding the good young un!!!

Budding days. Hamstrings like guitar strings and rock hard buttocks and almost losing the ability to stand up straight at the end of the row. Memories for me, if bureaucrats knew about it they would be regulating it. Sent from my iPad using Arbtalk

Happy with NZ every time, it ain't perfect, but it suits us. Have tried other places but come away disappointed. Sent from my iPad using Arbtalk

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I see the professional point of view that is being made about personal reputation & career. Also the framework of the law. If however it was an ancient monument or relic of significance though dead and past being of any use the archaeologists would be all over it. Yet these trees living monuments that could last centuries don't have the same protection potentially. I'm by no means a tree hugger, I often incline to removals, just interested in this thread and its viewpoints presented. In a perfect fair world the post about doing a true consult, it going to the councils desk and being appraised correctly would be the best outcome. But we live in the real world.

👍😃 yes I will try and extend my vocabulary with that one.

Devon banks can be steep. Or could you terrace strips every so often flat for planting or even leaning back to bund to catch water. It's a bit like the old 6 hedge plants to a metre. Supposed to be stock proof. Very few hedges are used as sole stock barrier. Many never contain stock. Hedges that are laid if 6 plants survived per meter would be thinned. But the above simple solution will probably be less hassle. Green it up quick with clover or something not too competitive to blend away the details of engineering. Oh,I've seen hawthorn growing out the side of a brick house wall. 90deg

Personally as a non qualified person in this field. I think If these trees are superb specimens with a long lifespan potentially yet to go. I'd definitely favour the trees over the money. Developments are awful abuse of established environments. As said get someone to get the tpo put in then you haven't done it. In my parish if you mentioned the job casually in conversation in pub in the evening. The council would be notified the following morning by the busybodies eavesdropping. Otherwise You may end up regretting it for the rest of your life The good trees say they are good, the bad or short lifers such as birch say they are of insignificance. Another avenue get someone to contact woodland trust or similar org. They stir with big media spoons. Ask the mods to make this a members only thread.

Another quick turnaround arbtalk success. Less than two weeks job done👍

This is a top attitude. I've spent thousands on kit for fencing, as yet I've not made big money, but I was reassured the other day when our tractor and post knocker was parked up less than 100meters from 2 lads from a bigger outfit than us doing less than 70m of post and rail by hand. Taken them over 3 days. It wouldn't of taken me a day on my own. Morale, aches etc it's not worth it. Good kit, top blokes(and ladies) jobs a pleasure.

That sums up Australia's all take no give international policy. I can't tell you anything about Canada. But I've visited Dunedin 5 times and hope to keep going back. Sent from my iPad using Arbtalk

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Yeah but you look like uncle fester out the Addams family most of the time! Instead the lads on here prefer the manly weathered rugged look and 12 hr days.

Aye but he's messing about with his phone,!

Best, most reasonable thread we've had in ages. Someone who can't do heights but loves the work is ideal. The industry does suffer a bit of the football prima Donna attitude towards climbing . They aren't as effective in their own. A team is essential. Really there should be little difference in rates I think. Climbing is the privledged job. I have worked alongside useless cheap help, whilst thinking a little more coin per hour we'd be getting a heck of a lot more done. Today I've earnt £140+ sat on my backside driving a hgv for 11hrs. Not a drop of sweat,minimal wear and tear of any of my kit. Park truck up go home and forget it. No sharpening,maintainence after hours. Why would many like myself bother thinking about ground working for £70? I remember a money oriented whipper snapper a few years ago telling the foreman he was worth £7 an hour. The foreman looked over across the field at me and said to the lad " if your worth £7 goaty is worth £21" "Why" "Because he's done 3 rows to your one" No more was said, but needless to say I probably was on £10 maximum. But it illustrates the point. If it takes 3 to do same amount on minimum wage as a grafter. Pay him 1/2 of three cheap lads. He'll not be motivated to leave. " I'm on a good thing , it's not worth the risk of leaving" Your profit will probably be the same, your hassle less, your work enjoyment higher. Money is far from the most important thing. Got to work (in most cases ) in this life, might as well enjoy doing it.

Your ethic is brilliant. I hope your energy lasts a long time.

There is only one of you. You planning on doing the beloved stump grinding on night shift?

The answer to your question I do not know, holding the levers for a long time whilst tracking is a tedious bore. Some minis I've driven tend to "scrat" a lot at higher speeds. I would of thought increasing fluid flow would be an easier solution. Would you be able to upgrade either undercarriage or hydraulic components within a makers range. We up rated a pump on our old case tractor it fit the same location as a straight swop. Many engines are the same just a different fuel pump kinda principle. Sent from my iPad using Arbtalk

Try getting weekend work now on trial. Then it won't effect the regular job. If you think it's looking hero and glamorous you will be in for a shock. Stamina is important. Weekend work would build you up nicely. Definitely good to read books. Test yourself constantly. Learn to identify trees the Latin and common names. Read up on fungi and pruning. I did as a young teenager and honestly learnt so little in my two years horticulture day release course. If I had time again, I wouldn't of wasted 80 days or so going to college. I wish you well. Your in a good position with great potential, what happens is down to you and a lesser extend who you work for.

The problem is ongoing. Wood does have a value. To realise it, it needs processing. Which is time consuming needing contacts and equipment to realise it. The willingness to make an effort. Really we should be more hardline. Make the job pay first. Nobody ever challenges those that do well out of low input services that are obviously doing well for themselves such as financial advisers and brokers. Driving round in high marque cars, expensive homes etc. With fees in the hundreds without a drop of sweat. Nobody ever says to a waste company, "My skip has loads of scrap metal in, it's worth X amount in it, can you knock that off" Sent from my iPad using Arbtalk