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I've done a few jobs. Truck driving is physically easy. I'm in a few weeks stint of holiday relief work. After the 10 hours of mental alertness there is nothing left. It does get easy if you do it full time but I don't do it long enough to get adjusted. Tree work is for the most part very satisfying. Though achy hard graft. What I would find the hardest personally if being inside doing an office job. I would lose the will to live. I did ten years inside at school. Only just. Never did that go back and see what grades I got. I'd escaped why go back? They were coming in the post! My mind was nearly outside all the time. Building go karts, damming streams. Thinking of next contraption for our treehouse. My point being what is hard for one is not for the other. Office work is definitely not physical. Yet would kill me. I can use a chainsaw for 6-8 hours, an hour on a brush cutter my back is seized, arms dead ,neck like a bent over leylandii under tension. Yet slightly built men and women can use a brush cutter as though it's therapy for hours, go for lunch pick it up again smiling. Horses for courses what is lacking is an appreciation for what everyone does. As demonstrated by the artificial dolly bird that says. "Could you just trim that little branch off over there" as you hang perilously over a greenhouse, cooking your nuts in your own sweat. I see this all the time trucking. Bigger vehicles and trailers need room to manuvre, how many times do they have to see it and have nr death experiences???

I take it being a bit bigger tractor it will also have an Independant clutch pack built in to the pto. Such ease compared to the fordson major type set up were you want to raise the arms to engage pto without strain but the pto also drives the hydraulic pump.

A good way of getting it done super cheap. Don't let a college have a go unless the down to the ground option is also ok. Our local college would send a pig farming lecturer to supervise. That is not a fib either!!!!!

Not as such but certainly, heavily tied down with red tape. Which diminishes their performance. I have a good mate who works for the council, he's good at climbing work. He has been stressed/fed up for a long time with it. These days he isn't on the tools. My argument is , if the climbers are kept grounded, they like athletes lose fitness, won't be as effective up there and by getting in the "pros" they absolve responsibity, leaving their team "safe" the other contractors working practise is less of responsibility. Good for you working with lads that graft. Our local council tree lads work ethic is what the butt of council worker jokes are unfortunately. Almost to a point of disbelief. No offence to you[emoji3] Sent from my iPad using Arbtalk

I hit a decent sized sycamore near Bridlington in the spring of 2002 with a landrover it fetched a huge plate of bark off. Big as a dustbin lid. Most is still missing and tree still alive.

Laying isn't an option due to cost I assume? I'm a fencing contractor and I'm saying a laid hedge is better than a fence(in many situations) better value. It will last unlike most treated timber products. Here is my chart. 1. Get rid and plant a nice hedge. 2. Lay it 3.Ground level 4. A foot below intended height People plant hawthorn because it's cheap and they have no originality. They just copy. You see it in small gardens in villages and towns. It looks naff and out of place which it is. It was planted to stock proof boundaries in the countryside in dry stone wall days of the past. When is farm livestock ever a threat now??? Also to bear in mind is having stumps Much lower than the intended height so they don't foul equipment cutting it and to give bushy upward growth rather than shave it ever after.

Climbing is skill that needs to be practised. Going by the mewp 1st theory. Council should get pros in to climb. To tick boxes. Avoidance etc. I prefer to climb just about any tree to ladders and man made contraptions as impressive as they are. I'm more reassured of options on the way down should it happen. Not tested that out yet. But have come a cropper with machines and equipment a few times on terra firma.

Went for a rare walk on the beach at mappleton nr Hornsea tonight saw these turbines thought of this thread. You will need a bigger screen to see them probably.

Shame, I'm the same. I had interest in renewables and efficiency of resources back in the 80s as a teenager and because I've never been career or money oriented, I've never been in a position to play around with such. You could of had several pumps, it would of spread the timeout maintainence or failure risk. Sent from my iPad using Arbtalk

this is a brilliant statement even in H&S speak. Sent from my iPad using Arbtalk

Even though we would lose energy, why not pump water by surplus solar power or whatever in the day uphill to a reservoir, then release it by night or at peak times to create hydroelectric. At least over a hundred years ago the Vulcan ram pump was design to use moving water to move water to a high head height. They could be utilised. People are only interested in government over subsidised schemes than are inefficient but put ticks in boxes.

Heavy lean explained better. It wasn't perhaps the best nor most accurate terminology. Unbalanced maybe a better phrase. If a tree has a fork that breaks out, the remaining tree can be lop sided in its balance of weight and volume, should strong wind come or even the growth stay dominant at than side. It is biased to go one way when it does fail. Depending on fungal attack, wind, old age or young growth, species and soil structure/anchorage. My heavy lean expression was just to sum up the above stresses exacerbated by fork failure possibly leading to plant failure. Although I have done a lot of tree climbing. Most of my experience is the training and manipulating of growth in nursery stock production. Built on that I have Sussed angles of flex and yield and it's only my opinion that it carries through in larger specimens. I've never climbed with harness or rope, so I have a blooming good idea of branch yield failure point. Yes when you start to research something like this which is a variable question. It's not suprising you end up with more questions instead.

This would be my take on it. If they help contain/secure a load of legal spec they are good. But if they are unsafe such as leaning Out ply boards, insecure loads.

I live a mile from the sea on the holderness coastline just under Hornsea. Already a row of evenly spaced red lights from turbines offshore at night. Not popular. But no one wants anything in their backyard. Somewhere in USA is a large solar farm, the reflection is causing birds to get burnt and drop out the sky on fire.

I thought that as well. Unless it's a really cheap bridge

Wow Ty,life has moved on. I remember you asking for input in the forum about Morocco etc. Was it that long ago you have two kids? I'm hoping they are twins, or have I really been on arbtalk that long. Sorry for derail chaps. Some good pointers and timesavers in this thread. Let those who will work for next to nowt do the hassle customers. As someone on here's tag line goes. You thing it's expensive to hire a professional, wait till you've hired an amateur.

I'm just a layman at this and am not setting out to discredit the work done and might be missing the points completely. My experience. Up in and around woody plants is....Acute angle forks are rarely sound in their loading ability in conifers and broad leafs. If they are ok because they are supported it's still negative for the plant, if the support dies or is damaged it doubles the death or damage potentially miss shaping and damaging, could create a heavy lean Few trees actually graft naturally to really inter support themselves. When forked tissue is exerted upon it nearly always causes far more and deeper wounding. Something else that does this is trilobata type growth where a pair of opposite buds normal for some genetic reason have 3. Acers and malus 2 species that this occurs in. Fastigate forms (upright narrow) poplars etc the wound of a branch torn away is often deep due to the acute angle of growth and the tissue along with leverage exerted upon it. I often see young forks in tree and despite the temporary misshape that would result am inclined to remove it for long term development. Size for size a wider angled branch is much stronger to stand on when in the tree. A crotch that would snap out with a foot close to the main stem.Would bear the same weight without failure upto 30cm away from the main stem. As an example.Species dependant. With the freak winds we sometimes get, even if someone never climbs the tree, surely it's better to engineer in flexibility to resist damage with wider angled stronger wood. In many cases it's too late.

I've had no choice as I've never had anything else. Berlingos were good for it about 15 years ago. I've only ever had ford escort vans. I've taken them where many 4x4s have never tried. Ground clearance is the big concern.

One part molasses to 9 parts water leave to soak for days.Take out wash with water and rub with old toothbrush. Resoak as needed. Repeat. I have removed heavy pitted rust, tractor wheels and parts this way. It is gentle and only attacks the rust particles. When you have washed them off and they are to your standard. Dry throughly,quickly and oil. The steel is so pure it will rust before your eyes. Whatever method you find best please report your conclusion.

He does have Freddie the little lad in his avatar from the thread "worst day of my life". Which I imagine is his number one priority in life. If I was in his situation everything else would wait when the lad needs attention. I reckon just be patient, he'll surface when he's ready.

I suggested windward Side before I saw photos. It's on multiple trees. Acer drumondii is a pain to keep varigated. Here is a younger tree on same site Sent from my iPad using Arbtalk

Yes can definitely limp home on a single if you started with a double[emoji849] I was following a rugged military 4 wheel truck today it was on grippy singles, I assume traction is down to tread design and footprint. Personally I think singles will be superior off road. Wider clearance, I've winced at the flex put on one of double wheels mounted on kerbs etc. If your American you can however say. Your 4 is a 6 wheeler! Unimogs run on singles. Sent from my iPad using Arbtalk

A friend has ask me about these lime trees. He is a veteran nurseryman so I safely assume we rule out the obvious such as graft and rootstock differences. These limes have a large patch of different size leaves. I thought it would be of interest to the biology gang. Sent from my iPad using Arbtalk

As for people who will only see you in the evenings, you need to be desparate for work if you are doing this a lot I think. Even healthcare shuts at 5-6pm why should you rotate around everyone else's universe? Or you take time off to offset this. Having a manager would be my ideal. Do the office work and quotes. Give a bonus incentive. Give them a proper title but not manager. Egos swell and things get awkward. Some might think the following comment is discriminatory but hear me out. If you was able to employ an older person, or someone you would not ordinarily employ on the tools, a woman or a handicapped person. You will often find they appreciate being valued and useful in a capacity they can achieve. Who acknowledge the graft done by the team.Also the lads/lasses on the tools will respect them for having a go in a career and not get jealous or bitter about them having the physically easier job. Whereas if you give a smooth metrosexual 20something the job. The guys are gonna want blood. I speak as a profoundly deaf person of over 35 years like my brother who is also hard of hearing (probably profound) who has been rejected for it but have also excelled when given the chance we both operate large machinery competently amongst other things. Deaf not daft. Although can be.

Would a zip line be worth carrying. Smooth out the ride for the stretcher.