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We are discussing an important issue of the day. Stumpgrinders post contributes nothing to the discussion and attacks the person and not the argument. On that evidence I assume he hasn't bothered to find out about the issue under discussion. For you to encourage him in this way Tony ... I'm surprised at you to say the least. As the above 'attack the argument and not the person' is a quote from you. As far as your own question goes Tony... I find it hard to believe that I would need to insult your intelligence by answering it. Look at the scale of the action required for a clue. The tone of this post sounds angry but it is not. Also although I used to know a lot about the climate change debate this does not automatically mean that I agree with it. I used to know the for and against arguments backwards. The fact is that the science side doesn't know exactly what is going to happen for sure, because climate is so complex.

Nice post Worcs:thumbup1: Now you've got me thinking about all this stuff Tony I have another thought. For those of you who think we are too small to affect our atmosphere. Look no further than the ozone hole, which is different science and specifically related to anthropogenic CFC emissions. If you don't think this is real, go to NZ and go out in 25 degrees Centigrade and take down a tree. I got heat stroked in 25 degrees in NZ and never in 4 yrs in Spain in 45 degrees plus. Now I must stop thinking about this stuff...its getting late.

The worst case scenario for the effects of climate change are not the end of the world at the moment. I think the current drive from campaigners is to get the levels to settle somewhere half acceptable so we don't wipe out our atmosphere as we know it entirely. In this respect, now I think about it you are right to harp on about it Tony.

Nice chatting with you mate Funny you got the blip too as I almost gave up as well but thought you deserved a response so made the effort. Probably less BS in my second version anyway. I also wanted to be more involved and haven't done what I would like. I did set up a charity which supported Tibetan refugees in vocational training, which has been on hold for a while. I would like to resurrect it.

Hi Tony Long time since we crossed swords aye mate. I bet you've forgotten:001_smile: This subject used to be my hobby for about 10 years, but not so much recently. I think though that you are about 10 to 15 years late with this thread. Look into 'lag times' with regard to the atmospheric response to reductions in anthropogenic C02x emissions and then look into 'tipping points'..... I rest my case:sneaky2: If all the science and modelling is correct... which is never a given.. then we are well and truly screwed already:biggrin:..... Which I think is what Worcs Wuss is alluding to.

Thanks for the considered response catweazel. You’re right that it was Nepal. I’m afraid I can’t answer your detail questions as this was 1999 and I have forgotten. I was with Annapurna Conservation Area Project for a while, just off me own bat, as I was interested in the work of NGOs. Your observations are better than my memory, but I know these stoves were designed for fuel wood efficiency due to shortages of fuelwood. I’ll take a look at the site you mention when it’s back up as all alternative technology stuff is a bit of a hobby of mine. By the way I was quite pleased with my 3 stone tin can thing at the time. I thought your ‘tincanium’ was a play on words. Sleeping in the car and no stove for a brew. So I bought a can of fruit the night before and some firelighters and just used a bit of firelighter under the tin for the morning brew. Had to write this twice as somehow arbtalk blipped and lost the first version:001_smile:

no... no... no... and yes in that order:thumbup1:

James Lovelock is an eminent scientist who invented the electron detector for the gas spectrometer in his garage in his spare time. The GC and his detector is how other scientists to this day detect how much of something is in something else. For example.. how much pesticide residue is in your food. Quoting the tabloid journalism that you have quoted in your link, in no way diminishes this mans clout. When you google stuff you need to check its credibility preferably by cross referencing with other sources:001_cool:

Sharpen your 'Mod Sticks' Mods, this one could get messy:sneaky2:

Interesting post catweazel. I'd be interested to know if you think these stove designs take on board what you were saying. With the exception of the first they are enclosed on three sides and raised up a bit.

Cheap n cheerful:thumbup1:

I watched the first one with interest as I do small gobs to get it to fly like that, and it flew with precision. I wanted confirmation from you that I was doing it right so all good there. The third one where you popped a wedge in to prevent it sitting back... I've never seen that done up a tree. I don't carry much with me up a tree, but I'm gonna add a wedge to the kit now. Just leaves the problem of where to put my backy if I put it in my pocket. Haven't watched it all yet but they look skinny and high, I'll be watching with interest as I'll be back on taller stuff in NZ, by the end of the year if my visa comes through. Thanks for posting the vid Reg:thumbup1:

Not up a tree but this was a cool little woodland in the Pyrenees in France some years ago.

My last post was trying to address your opinion and recognise that you have a right to it whilst disagreeing with it. I empathise with you and thanks for elaborating in this way. I agree with you and am suffering the same thing. But its a tough world and getting tougher and I believe that everybody especially the young ones have a right to a pop at it. The work that is.

The main gripe seems to be undercutting through lower overheads due to not paying for as many things as you feel you have to pay for. 'You' being all you lot who feel this way. Lets say you both quoted the job... Thats the OP and any one of you chaps who feel this way. Surely this is always going to happen.. different types quoting jobs. To me the bottom line is that the customer will choose based on his own evaluation of the options presented to him.

Cheers Pedro:thumbup1: Hodge... Your very own Mr Blair has written several times on this forum about how he started this way. As in from scratch and with little experience or knowledge. Here's a young chap starting with little experience or knowledge. We have covered the dad helping and the EL insurance. Yeah you can pick more holes in his modus operendi (sp) but I don't see why you would want to. Nobody has a right to the work that's out there. If he sticks at it he'll be a 'proper company' if he wants to be, in his own good time. Edit : writing at same time as andy but saying same thing it seems

I could be wrong here Kev and stand to be corrected but I vaguely remember that there may be an exemption regarding employers liability insurance for family members. Someone out there might know.

I never get this argument Kev. Why should I run my outfit with any concern whatsoever to how you are going to compete with me. We all have different circumstances and if the OPs dad is willing to give him a hand for cheap or for free I see no reason why not. Your dad might have given you the money to buy a saw, or allowed you the use of part of his farm for a yard. Good luck to you, I'm not going to worry that it isn't fair. No angry tone here... I just don't get this... how do I compete malarky:001_smile:

Thanks David, these are from old prints I've been finding and scanning. I was working in the Alpuharas near Orgiva about 1 hour south of Granada. So thats the Sierra Nevada ranges in the pic. I was pleased to find that first one as I didn't know I had it till recently. Were you in Galicia or thereabouts? Very green and well watered in the north and all olives and eucs in the dry south. I did get to do some conny bashing though:001_smile:

Cheers Pedro Whilst the OP is admiring my sleeper wall building brilliance, and digesting all the other well proffered advice I have a question for you... at risk of derail. I'm a BSC Hons Env Sci myself ... I tried to save the world for a while but its a big job and frankly I can't be arsed.. Anyway I wonder what area your PHd was in.... My final thesis thingy was on organochloride pesticide residues in the marine environment, with a focus on dead dolphins and bioaccumulation up the food chain. Also on the lipophilic nature of said nasties and effects on the young through dolphin version of breast feeding. Just wondered:001_smile:

Thats a proper nice bit of carving that is Splinters. I'm liking your journey....... (If you don't know what I'm on about with this comment I'll have to quote myself from some other thread to find out:001_smile:)

Thread for pics of your arboreal (is that a word?) travels. Me in Spain 2002 edit: I've given much thought to what I might be doing in this pic... I think I'm making a rollup.

Design a horse by committee and you get a camel:001_smile:

Thanks chaps although I hope I'm honest in saying that I'm not fishing for complements and that the pics are for confidence building of the OP (and the thread needed pics). The job was about 8 years ago and I returned to tree work soon after. I think I'd done some flagging before this one but not a sleeper retaining wall. There are a couple of giveaways of my inexperience in there. The rebar was set into a concrete footing and were too long so I couldn't get the next sleepers on accurately. I ended up cutting the rebar down and drilling and pinning them with rebar in twos. The steps are dug out like that as I had real trouble working out the rises to get them even. They were later dug out more and backfilled rather than laying onto bare earth. I did do a 'scope of work' with all the specs at the start to prevent arguments later on. You can pull back a bit of pay for this by getting a trade discount on materials so you get 10% for all your measuring and figuring out at the start. Top handle on the ground... moi.....thats an angle grinder:001_cool: Sorry if my advice on the 2 bricks thing turns out to be incorrect. All the specs were taken from paving expert.... I have no connection with this site but it was useful to me at the time.

I did this with about your level of experience, except I'd done quite a bit of labouring on Spanish building sites so I knew how to make a mix. Posted to encourage you to go for it and keep learning. My labour on this was about the same as the materials cost, If it had been double materials cost it would be about right. Lots you should know but one big tip. Never slab or deck up to a house without being 2 courses of bricks below the damp course. You then take your falls for run off from this height. Go above this and you can cause probs with splash and damp..insurance and even house value.