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Do I look worried:001_smile:

My cat will piss all over you lot (the shooters) Good on the young lad by the way.

Mark makes a very good point about not being bullied or peer pressured into things. In my view this is one of the most important things. Whilst listening and learning which is fine. You are the one up the tree, its your call... remember that. How to stay alive in two words: SMALL BITS

This is a no brainer. Stubby is right, and Andy I disagree... although I started the way you say.. I did nearly get killed more than once. Talk to your boss and get back into your comfort zone el pronto young man:thumbup1:

Muy Bien, quería hablar Español un poco. Quando vivi en Las Alpujarras, tuve mismo problema. En serio, no tuve un burro……..Tienes uno? Usé una balsa grande y fuerte d’el ejército y una combi can. A veces, una Landrover Santana… muy viejo y siempre roto, pero no esta bien por las vías alta. Estaba mi casa (foto) en las Alpujarras durante cuatro años. un saludo... Pablo (If you don’t speak Spanish (badly) we are still on donkeys and big strong bags/trolleys. …. Please feel free to suggest big strong bags for the OP’s original question…)

Hang on chaps...my derail is down the quarter sawn route as Peter has picked up on nicely:001_smile: If I'd known the arsenic bit was gonna be quoted so much, I might have spelt it right the first time. Interesting post again catweazel...I'm going to search for something you don't know about:001_smile:

Is this of any interest to the nerds:001_smile: I haven't seen one before, but a puff ball of some sort is my guess. Should I give it a squeeze:confused1:

I think we have it covered Alycidon and we are hopefully ‘on the same page’ here so to speak. With your log merchant hat on 20% is ok for normal use. With your stove merchant hat on 15% is best for that particular stove which you say can be achieved through indoor storage. I’m cool with that. To answer your question, my customers logs were split and in the garage and could well have been lower than 18% on the inside. I did a bit of googling on this last night as I didn’t understand everything in Catweazels first post. I now know what ‘tangential shrinkage’ is, and all about ‘Equilibrium MC’ and ‘Fibre Saturation Point’. This led to an understanding of what quarter sawn logs are and why this is done (I have never understood quartersawn till now). Fascinating stuff. I read a lot of random information in the process. One pdf from the Forestry Commission had a strong warning about burning tanalised wood as it has arsnic in it apparently. If we get talking about quarter sawn timber, it would be a ten out of ten on the derail front.

I just went and tested a few of my outdoor ones that are over a year old and nice and dry..as in protected from rain. I'm getting 16% on the outside. I am too lazy to cut one in half right now but will get around to it. This thread is not all about MC however so I'm happy for you to leave me to play around with it for the next 6 months:001_smile:

Thanks Alycidon.and yes it does help:001_smile: I haven't checked your links yet... but with regard to keeping it in the garage etc. I tested customers logs that had been in the garage when I delivered mine. As you say, these logs that had been 'indoors' for ages tested at the same 18% MC as mine on the outside. I accept that they may retain their summer MC on the inside. Next winter I will take some of these logs and cut them in half and see. Also do some tests this summer to see what the best achievable MC is. I have done none of what you suggest but it does make sense. It raises the question as to how long a summer MC can be maintained through the wood, through the winter. Edit: I have cut logs in half before to get the internal MC, but only my outside stored ones and it was 18%. I have not done the above test before which is different. My moisture meter is poised and at the ready... there is science to be done.

Threads need pics:001_smile: Here's me in 'my' 36 metre MEWP in NZ. (actually can't remember if this one is the 36, we had three but one of them was big) Glad I hadn't seen this thread at the time:001_smile: It had a recorded voice that told you when you were overextended etc....problem was it spoke Japanese... no BS.. Edit: No disrespect to those who suffered the accident, perhaps being a bit lighthearted here. I had no idea this could happen though.

With respect Alycidon your response only repeats the recommendation without saying how to achieve it. I looked at the HETAS site and could only find basic advice on burning dry wood.. nothing detailed even in their downloadable pdfs. You can link the bit you're referring to by copying and pasting the URL from the address bar. I notice they sell the same moisture meter as mine under different branding for £16.80. As Stereo says, you've got to dry it artificially and then avoid ambient MC to get and keep 15% MC.

“While your wood is not perfect it is acceptable if below 20% which is what Esse advise as the maximum permitted moisture level”. With due respect to the effort you are putting in here Alycidon and not wishing to be petty or cause any kind of derail I do have a question regarding your above statement. My wood last winter split and seasoned for more than a year, some of it 2 or 3 years, all ended up around 18% MC, I believe due to ambient MC of the air. It is vented and covered only on the top. I assume that you consider an MC lower than this to be ideal. The only way I can think of to achieve this is to dry your logs by the fire before burning which will get the MC down a bit but takes some organizing. Is this what you recommend? I am assuming that you would accept that kiln dried logs if stored outside will eventually reach ambient MC. I am using the moisture metre pictured which has 2 probes out the top and out of shot. It was £10 from Amazon and I have no idea how it was calibrated etc. I am merely interested to know that if my wood is around the maximum permitted moisture level, how you would expect your customers to achieve the minimum. In good faith Paul:001_smile:

Hola Nino bueno y viejo, como estas Si quieres una balsa grande y muy fuerte, no puedes encontrar lo en el ferreteria? Prefiero el burro:001_smile:. Perdona por mi lingua malo pero no hablo espanol desde casi ocho anyos. Buenos Dia Pablo:001_smile:

I don't mill but here's a mushroom I carved from euc. The last pic looks like what you would expect from euc, I'm surprised those good bits are so good. Is that before they split or have they survived intact? Usually its Gunnii (Sp) here isn't it there are eucs in the world that behave quite well for woodworking purposes.

Good work ethic that, I'll take a leaf out of your book and go sort the 020 (old man speak for 200t)

Sorry about that, Have the blades seen a file lately:001_smile: Just a suggestion:001_cool:

Ok Saws it is then:blushing: I did sharpen the blades on me dads ride on yesterday, he's delighted:001_smile:

Or a life it seems:001_smile: No I do do stuff in between .. honest:001_smile: "038 problem" is up to 14 VPP will edit next time. I have a busted 038 myself maybe I should go tinker with it, and a busted 200t and my working one needs some TLC, perhaps I'll go do that. Cheers Rich:thumbup1:

"What's the Weather like..." is moving up the ranking fast:001_smile: Pics of milled products = 122 VPP Lunge thread = 73 VPP General Tree Pics = 70 VPP Pricing too High = 65 VPP Hama’s Big Reduction… = 53 VPP What’s on Your Bench Today = 45 VPP Would You Climb This? = 35 VPP Whats the Weather Like Near You = 24 VPP Tis the Season to see Fungi = 22 VPP Climate Change Discuss = 18 VPP Mysterious Problem Stihl 038 = 11 VPP

I added 3 more …General Tree Pics, Hama’s Reduction and Spudulikes’ thread:001_smile:. Pics of milled products = 122 VPP Lunge thread = 73 VPP General Tree Pics = 70 VPP Pricing too High = 65 VPP Hama’s Big Reduction… = 53 VPP What’s on Your Bench Today = 45 VPP Would You Climb This? = 35 VPP Tis the Season to see Fungi = 22 VPP Climate Change Discuss = 18 VPP Mysterious Problem Stihl 038 = 11 VPP During the climate change thread I watched the number of views on its slow progress from 3044 to nearly 4000. I wondered how many were interested. This is what I came up with.

Divide the number of views by the number of posts and you get ‘views per post’ (VPP) Is this an interesting gauge of Arbtalk members interest in different topics? Is it a gauge of the number of people you are talking to? Are there other factors? Should time be factored in? Quick League Table: Pics of milled products = 122 VPP Lunge thread = 73 VPP Pricing too High = 65 VPP Would You Climb This? = 35 VPP Tis the Season to see Fungi = 22 VPP Climate Change Discuss = 18 VPP Mysterious Problem Stihl 038 = 11 VPP

Mr Butler gets first prize though:001_smile:

If there is a right answer Skyhuck has the technique and Gareth makes a very important point about experience and comfort zone. I hadn’t been so stuck as to what to do for some time if ever. My groundie ain’t a climber and I wanted a second opinion. At least I wanted a second climber to back me up rather than me being the only tree surgeon on site. Worst case is that you take a swing into the tree on the left, the only place to tie into or a bigger swing into the oak behind. Even for this you would have to do the top without your secondary strop tied on or you’ll get pulled with it, assuming the back up line doesn’t hold it, or it goes sideways on the back up line. It’s only a small tree and you ain’t gonna die but it could hurt quite a lot. I called a guy I used to subby for and asked him to come have a look. The tree belonged to my dad by the way. I keep friendly with my competition and work with them rather than against them. He turned up with his own crew took one look and did this, no charge, as he owed me one for past favours. The rope you can see is tied into the oak behind which can be seen in the 4th of the first set of pics, to hold it if it goes. He is tied into the tree on the left and did the scary bit whilst a bit above and about 15/20 feet to the right of his anchor. With the weight reduced in little bits on the way up and from higher up it did sit back so just simple chogging down from there.

What about this one then? No mewp access , boggy ground anyway. The skylight of the bungalow is in range if it goes. Is it being held up by the bits caught in the tree on the left at the top of the leaning tree?