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Very few double sided stoves can accept direct air, as long as there is a non closable vent in an external wall of the stove room then that is fine. A

In thst case there will also need to be an air supply laid into the stove room irrespective of the stove size.

Most of the traditional double sided stoves have been made obsolete as they dont comply with Ecodesign legislation that came into force on 1/1/22. I would usually use Hunter, not the best stoves in the world but not the worst. Those that make the best dont do double sided. Got a feeling that Eurostove have 2022 compliant double siders. A

Heta make superb stoves, they are in my opinion one of the top two or three stove manufactures out there at this time. Scan line 16 is not a current model so cant advise technically as I am a very new Heta dealer, looks around 7kw nominal so given average insulation values in the house/stove room then you will need a room with a volume of around 100 cu m to get the best from it. A

Sounds like you need a quailified sweep to come in, sweep the chimney and have a look. Movement of a few mm in a rear brick is not a problem as long as there is not a 2mm gap at the rear of the fire. I.e. any gap is at the side of the brick. A

Wrong, The steel will transfer the heat. A

Dissagree unless it's a very inefficient stove, big stove so 450mm flue pipe, likely to want 600mm above the stove, The lowest I am aware of 375mm. A

Minimum combustible clearances from the top of a stove have always been in the forefront for pro installers, along with the clearance from the exposed inside edge of a beam to a flue pipe, but over the last few years the clearance of the underside of a combustible beam from the flue pipe has come to the forefront following issues with beams catching fire. The sweep in condeming the install due to the beam is a trade proffesional giving a homowner best advise, preventing themsetting fire to the beam and maybe the house. I have seen Oak beams burnt pretty well through from the inside when externally they look ok. Please take on board what the sweep is saying, you loose your house to a chimney fire then if the evidence of a condemned installation comes to light during your jnsureres investigations then your policy may be invalidated. My best advise as a stove retailer is to get a reputable local installer in to look at the installation and if necessary cost up rectification works. A

I had an occasional blade wobble on my Japa 700, bearings on the drive shaft were shot. A

You can download Approved Document J from the govt website. Page 1 of Google is usually full of people trying to sell it to you , the site you want will probably be on page 2 where you can download it fir free. You want the 2014 version ideally but the older version will do as it covers this aspect. When I read your post I did not see anything about tar, but let's talk a bit about thst. Creosote occurs naturally within pretty well all woods. When loaded into a stove the creosote is given off in gas form and providing the temperature is hot enough to combust the gases. The problems come when A. wet wood is loaded, thus all the energy is used to evaporate the remaining water in the log and there is not enough energy left to get the temperature in the firebox above the combustion point of the creosote gases. And B when a stove is run closed down fir extended periods. If the temperature in the firebox drops below the combustion point of the creosote gases then instead of burning in the firebox they get up into the flue, condense in the flue, and line the sides of the flue with tar. So removing the cladding in the bedroom would not have an effect on the tars forming as thst occurs in the firebox, but in the event of a chimney fire caused by tar deposits things would get very dangerous pretty well immediately. A

Sorry for the late reply, simply swamped with demand for stoves and would at present. The installation of a stove is a notifiable event, this means your local building control office needs to be informed. It also needs to be installed as per the instructions in the front end of Approved Document J of the building regs. If its not signed off or not installed to the regs if you ever have a fire your insurers will invalidate your cover and not pay your claim. So let's look at whsts needed, single skin pipes and flexible flue liner can only be used inside a brick or masonry chimney. A flue system like yours is fully insulated, while you can use up to 1.5m of single skin off the top of the appliance everything above that has to be twin wall. This is legal requirement, bear in mind that the minimum combustible clearance on a single skin 150mm pipe is 450mm. Roof rafters, ceiling joints, plaster board on the ceiling are all highly combustible. In upstairs rooms and lofts the twin wall pipes are required to be boxed in, again safety measure to protect against fire. Yours is not boxed in and you are asking about removing the insulation material. This is as large a NO WAY as I can give you. The insulation is there to stop the pipe setting fire to your property and the outer skin of it are structural and likely to be holding up the pipes above it. One final issue, I have never seen a twin wall solid fuel flue that is anything other than stainless steel or zinc coated in construction. That yours has a plastic or similar cover suggests to me thst the flue you have is not a solid fuel one. My best advice to you is to get a professional independent installer in to check the install but if its as you say it will be condemned as unsafe. That Hetas were not prepared to comment does not surprise me, your description raises huge red flags and you should have at least been told to get a registered installer in to check things out, that's why I resigned some years ago and joined the SIA. Please do not cut thst insulation material away. A

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Never ever burn anything that is creosoted, when you cut the rails do they smell of creosote?, dont look like they are so treated thus should be Ok to burn once dry. A

Welcome to the site by the way, there are some good people here. Sorry to sound negative but the safety of you and your family must come first. A

Dont even think about re using it, the life of your family and you are dependant on the liner remaining smoke tight. It also does not look like a solid fuel liner but a thinner walled one for use with oil or gas. Solid fuel liners are thicker as they have to be able to withstand being swept every year. A flexi liner is only allowed for use within a brick or masonary chimney, if the pic is the liner coming out of same in a loft area then the liner is heading up to the roof this is illegal and very dangerous. You have any sort of insurance claim following a fire and your insurance will be invalidated and your claim cancelled. I would advise that you get a suitably qualified person in to look at it and cost up the work needed, this to include the certfication needed under the building regs. Hetas and Oftec both run qualified persons schemes for solid fuel. PM me if necesssary, Thanks A

Most solid fuels will be illegal to sell from Jan22 under Ecodesign legislation, they burn to dirtily. You will still be able to buy Anthracite, this is hard to light, burns with a poor flame pattern but goes 4 hours or so between reloads. I know 3112 is sold as MF and 3116 as a woodburner, but this is a marketing thing, they are exactly the same stove with cosmetic changes. 3116 has not been tested on solid fuel as there is no point unless the solid fuel manufacturers alter their solid fuel make up by reducing high sulphur additives and increasing the anthracite content.

Probably older than you think and for smoking meat to preserve it. A

The Esse Hybrid is now no longer available to order for sale in the UK and Europe as it is not Eco Design 2022 compliant. Lost a sale for one some months ago as they are on 6 months lead time which would have meant delivery after the 1 Jan 22 cut off. It is still available for export only outside Europe and the UK. At that time I could not find any on display at any other dealers either as we sometimes intertrade. A

No point, rip the lot out, then get the cherry picker in for the new install. Alycidon

The stove is a budget chinese one, installation looks horrific, almost certainly self installed and not signed off as safe to use. Been run shutdown for long periods, probably because its far to powerfull for the room, as a result tars have formed in the flue. Wooden beam looks to be to close to the flue pipe ( needs minimum 3 times the flue pipe diameter) . Rip the lot out, sell the stove on e bay or facebook market place for spares or repair. Get a registered chimney sweep in to properly sweep the flue and remove the tar deposits if he can. Then go and see your local independent stove dealer who acts for quality brands, Charnwood, Heta, Arada, Morso, Esse, Jotul, Contura, Hwam, there are one or two others. Avoid budget crap as you wont be able to get parts for it in 10 years. Bear in mind that we are hugely busy and have been since the end of lockdown 1, most top flight installers are now booking installations in December and January. Due to massive shortages of steel and cast iron stove lead times are typically 3 - 6 months and worse with some brands. As a stove retailer I am having regular forward orders I placed in the spring now coming through on the popular models, most decent operations will be doing the same. Do not order your stove through the web, you get zero support in the case of a problem and in many cases your warranty period is reduced to the bare legal minimum. PM me if necessary, bear in mind people are also panic buying logs so am also busy trying to clear a backlog of deliveries for wood so only tend to get here at this time of night. Regards Alycidon,

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Welcome to the site. I am a major distributor for Arada and Morso and have been for many years. The Arada Hamlet range is an entry level product, designed specifically for builders and developers who want a decent stove at a price level that is comparable with the better quality Chinese stuff. The visible glass size is significantly smaller than the more popular Ecoburn and Holborn ranges, Hamlet has a 10 year casing warranty which is the norm for a quality stove manufacturer, the Ecoburn and Holborn have a lifetime casing warranty. This is a warranty against faults in parts used in manufacture and the manufacturing process, it does not cover you against abuse or ingression of water. These products have a steel body with a cast iron door. The 4412 is a fairly new model, its been out 2 or 3 years, steel body with steel door, door closes magnetically which is a nice touch, 10 year casing warranty. I have sold about 10 but have had one where the door came open when the stove got hot, Morso changed it though. Having a distrust of this system I do make sure every 4412 that goes out then the door closes as it should. Other than that it does what it says on the tin. The Morso Badger 3116 is one of my favorite stoves, made from heavy duty cast iron it works superbly. The visible glass size is a bit small when compared to some but Morso have never been a company to follow fashion. If in 50 years you need some parts for your 3116 then they will be available and if still in production will be the same as the 3116s in current production. Since its launch 3 years ago the Charnwood Aire 5 has been my best seller, followed the the Ecoburn Widescreen, I would recommend that you also consider Aire 5 but it does need a 150mm flue where the others in England can all be flued on a 125mm system which of course is cheaper. All the above are 2022 compliant. Hope that helps. A

That is I think the sort of thing thats being worked on, but there are a whole raft of approvals to gain prior to it being marketed in the UK. A

Self adjusting stoves are in development by at least one of the UKs leading stove manufacturers. Currently being trialled overseas. Some small European manufacturers have tried the market them with very little uptake. My own feeling is that anything electrical in close proximity to a stove is asking for trouble. Good idea to ban open fires and old inefficient stoves but no way would the govt play ball on that, to much of a vote looser especially in the North. a

Doubt they are compliant with the new Eco design 2022 regs either, but that does not come into effect untill Jan and after that date non compliant stoves sold can still be used. But he shows one at 40kw, that must be huge, far bigger that anything else I am aware of in the market currently. A