Mesterh

Actually I think its more around the 6.5k mark.

Are we talking profit here or income? You get the first 5k or something around there tax free on your income not on your profit as far as I know.

There are loads of things we can legally claim for that we probably dont but you do have to make sure that they are allowed ie your thread:001_smile: What I was saying is you cant make a profit and not pay any tax unless the accountant fiddles the books. My goal as a business is to pay as much tax as possible since that means I have made loads of profit. Not like this year where I paid bugger all tax because I brought hardly any money in. I just hear quite a few people saying my accountant is great I only pay around 6 pence in tax every year. They either have a very poor business or they are on the fiddle and wont be happy if they get caught. Besides 21K profit isnt bad at all, I would be well happy with that, well obviously depends if you take a decent wage too.

What I meant was sneaky/dodgy ie 'good' accountants claim for stuff you havent spent on and move expenses around so they look better Do you mean you can say you spent xx amount paying your wife so you can claim the tax back but you dont pay your mrs?

I assume she is already working and therefore should pay tax on any additional income.

Yes I agree with that but thats not what 'good' accountants usually do. Also claiming you pay someone XX amount of money for a service that they dont provide in order to save tax is I think fraud. Plus his Mrs would then have to declare the earnings any pay the tax anyway. There is a lot of stuff you can claim for but you have to prove it all.

Ahh right tax evasion, I see now. Yes you can pay no tax by fiddling but if you get caught:scared1: Lots of 'good' accountants just fiddle stuff.

If you want to pay no tax you need to make no profit and to do that you need to earn nothing or spend it all on consumable kit.

Oh dear that doesnt sound very good. Unless your a tree cutter,

Had tom tom and garmin on phone both do the job well. Using the garmin atm but I think the tomtom is easier to use, cant remember why though!

Sad indeed that someone was killed like that. I think personally that people dont realise they have a responsibility in who they employee to carry out work, whether its tree work, electrical, roofing, building etc. I think that most of they time they think that if someone says they can do it they just let them get on with it and think if theres a problem its thier fault and not mine. If the land owner doesnt know its his responsibility to make sure the employed people have the required training and insurance then imo they cant be held responsible. I know ignorance isnt an excuse but has anyone ever said to you that if you employee a tree surgeon make sure he has the right certs and insurance because if he hasnt and kills an employee or member of the public the blame can fall on your shoulders. For all we know the land owner may have thought he was employing a bona fide company.

Cheers:thumbup1:

No never!! Although only when its too late. Not a good time to do conny hedges atm unfortunately.

Is way quicker, nearly twice as fast I reckon. As long as the belts are nice and tight and the old brain is switched on does work well. So theres cheap chinese green teeth copies? Any links?

Well the rolly eye smilie made it look like you were being sarcastic in the comment Stevie made about the letters after there name. Anyway I'm sure you care less than me so for arguments lets just say I won eh. Of course its not rocket science but then they have some skill and I'm just a monkey with a saw. Hey BTS (the original poster) did you find the answer you were looking for then?

Cheers for the info fellas. I thought the gladiators were tough (Mozza mentioned it awhile ago) but when I looked at the pics I just thought it was around the knee and ankle. I just cant bring myself to part with £200 no matter how good they are! I do WISH I had a nice employer to pay for them though:sneaky2: Although I do know have a plan to buy some SIP progress A for the summer and maybe some Strech Air or equivalent C for the winter. Once again cheers for the comments and it hasnt fell on deaf ears although I may have made it sound like it did (ask for opinions then dismiss them!) Oh and Paul Jenks I'll try and do something about my chanisaw technique eh.

Reasons why I think the pay is low. 1. ATM there is loads of unemployed tree people looking for work. 2. In a lot of cases both commercial and domestic trees are just a PITA and alot of people think there is no value in them therefore no value in working on them. 3. For some reason people will employ anyone who has a chainsaw and truck, dunno how many times ive been asked for certs or insurance but it isnt many. 4. Because of above loads of lads just buy a saw and truck then go knocking for work and get it no problem. 5. The overheads are fairly high, look what a small company needs to run a gang compared to an electrician,bricky, plumber, roofer etc. Therefore profits are lower. 6. Trees in general dont demand work to be carried out but electrics, roofs, water etc do. There are LOADS of jobs I have quoted for that have never been done. 7. When atraining centre gets set up (like it did here) the local job centre thinks its an excellent idea to put every young lad on the dole through arb training. SO, you end up with loads of lads looking for work that doesnt exicst. 8. For some unknown reason people think there is loads of money in tree work and therefore go and get qualified.

Ah but I'm not asking which are the best, I'm asking which ones have the stronger material around the front upper thigh area. You know the stuff thats fairly indestructible usually around the knee and ankle area. Does such a pair of chainsaw pants exist? Thats where mine wear out due to the way I sharpen the saw but mainly from burns off the 020 exhaust.

Tbh that comment reads to me that putting letters after your name is pointless and that hose who do are muppets. Not my line of thinking but it looks like thats what your arguing over. Anyway back on topic, of course its a skilled job thats why younger people are better at it, older ones are pooh and its not worth bothering starting in this game if your over 30,oh and because it so highly skilled we should all have chainsaw licenses that are controlled by the government which would also include a WCL and because of our training and top skill we wouldnt need to bother with LOLER, PUWER or re taking our license's every 5 years. There thats all my posts for the next week sorted.

Tbh I just dont believe people will pay those prices for that amount of work. If I priced £180 for those 3 conifers I could guarantee 100% around here I would not win that job. Would any of you pay that? It must be about the equivalent of a brickie laying down 10 bricks.

It took my body quite awhile to adjust to the tree working life at the age of 20.(an I wasnt an unhealthy unfit git either) so I could see it taking longer at 30+. Besides I have seen a few older lads (very late 20's)trying to get into the game and tbh they arent that good and I doubt will make very good climbers. Obviously not everyone will be the same and determination plays a big part.

He could live in the south of France and travel 14 hours to each job, what a silly git he would be.

Wasnt there a device that inflated from the exhaust of a chainsaw. You put it into the back cut then inflated it. Never tried it though.

Wouldnt you be better off trying to lay them rather than cut down to stumps? BTW dont ask me for advice on how to do this because I aint a clue but thought it may be an option.