Bundle 2

Well now, I've had this motion for just a little while...barely had time to set it up in real terms...not that this has stopped me tryin'!! I figure I got it jus about right first time and I wanna say what a super comfy ride this saddle really is....neat.

The Sun has just decided to put forard a candidate for the bi-elaction with David Davies....Low brow tabloid fiddling....The mail is a patronising rag and not to be taken as gospel either IMO . Lymes disease is unlikely to kill you unless you are old and weak....some doctors would struggle to diagnose it!!!

Just to be a real PITA if you cut at the bbr but miss the "G" spot for arguments sake..watch the plants response. It will be species specific but almost unable to seal the wound at that place that the bbr was not considered to be present. This must surely point to the status of the cells at the bbr and crucially those just a quite small distance from it...Some cells it seems are designed to become woundwood and can achieve this better than the cells which are not. However, when you read this in context to Shigos findings, they would all need to be the same by definition..... A complex issue worthy of consideration . I find I have to read the stuff several times to pin point the facts and eek out the meaning and order as it was intended.

Check this out.... http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/boonites/callus/index.html http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/boonites/callus/woundwood%20and%20callus-1.html I hope this helps

I know what you are saying ....You have answered your own question.......

I think you can say of callus that it is identified because of where it occurs. Remove at the BBR and the wound will form callus to seal ( we say seal, not heal....) but when mechanical damage appears elsewhere, low on the stem for example, you will /can differentiate between the classifications of the woods. Importantly, we are not trying to point out differences in the wood but only in the way the plant biology is designed to produce the wood. It is the simplicity of the cells that do not differentiate that allows them to be more versatile in their ultimate employment by the tree (the use to which they can be put. ) This is in a large part how we come to describe trees as "dynamic " and also " living"

Oh and think about the BBr and the predisposed programming of cells in plant function lifecycle....they are most carefully either present or not......( suddenly feel the need to say woody plants...treees!!! ) lol

No -one in their right mind reads the mail for christ sake...!!!

Seriously thio'...I wanna "sculpt " a few perches from raw wood...most those pics are really not on my wavelength...rough and ready....I like the attempts profferred by monkeyd...way fine man......M<<<>>>?>?!!

You guys......thanx 4 sharing...you just move in circles I cant orbit....bollox!!!

I am not happy to be missing the workshop scheduled for 2nite...major bummer.....

Quite apart from the fact that you are way too into it mate...there are differences between woundwood and callus and these are only determined scientifically...As I recall, they are identified in the way you outline but beyond that, most cells are predetermined in the sense that they will only ever perform a specific function in the plants life...it is written into the "dna ".....the differences you question are fundamental to the plants creation of woundwood from cells that do not " differentiate"... thoroughly logical when you consider that a tree for example can never know where they are required ( ie where they will get damaged ) so the solution is to keep their options open...****kin' smart n'est pas?

Actually Andy, I think you are right when say it isnt very productive in this context but I cant help finding myself in agreement. I got NPTC's and went on to gain experience and necessary further input in order to "progress". It was hard work and costly in more ways than one in so many ways although I regert none of it. The point tho is that it really shouldnt be so much hard work and stuggling just to become adequately competent...surely it should aim to be a professional career choice for aspiring professionally minded people in a respected and valued industry. Can you honestly say that NPTC's aim to deliver all that cos I dont myself think they were ever designed as such although, and to their credit, reviews like the poll perhaps are aimed at a dynamic self awareness necessary for schemes survival.

Matey done the same thing hopping over a fence with the saw...not running but evidently no scabbard...did his arm no favors for real!!

You will quite often find with this fungus that friuting bodies appear to simply "dry up " only for new brackets to emerge elsewhere that produce spores as normal. If the tree has successfully compartmentalised the infection then it would not appear elsewhere in all likihood....I am not entirely sure to be honest. I do know that Ganoderma spp can take some considerable time to become established in the host and may well have to compete against fungi with more "effective " mechanisms of establishment in comparison. Whether or not this contributes to the apparent dormancy..again I'm not entirely sure!!!??

NPTC certification aims to be a broad house and indeed there are more than one or two areas appear under the umbrella of training. A good starting point IMO.There is certainly quite alot more to the business of arboriculture than seems immediately obvious. That the industry seeks to train and then assess those that work within their chosen field is absolutely right and proper. In all fairness however, the nicest thing you can say about the NPTC sheme is that it appears to be like obtaining a driving licence.You are assessed and passed lets say. You can now start to learn how to drive. Something I have also noticed too is the nothing short of appalling attitude of some employers toward potential staff in the industry. There is clearly a failure somewhere and it seems to affect both those in the business aswell as those wishing to make arboriculture their chosen profession. As an overview of NPTC , I feel it is scant and perhaps a little too brief .The quals by no means qualify you. How can you teach an enduring dedication to an area of endeavour anyway. I also happen to agree with Pete when he states that it is easy to become isolated in this industry. How so when qualifications themselves are described as " vocational " Cheers:sheep:

Yes thanx:angel: lol

Yeah cool...It is an issue at my place of work for other reasons too ( politics...but lets not go there !! ) My arguement remains unchanged as far as this goes whilst strimming. A visor is actually not sufficient. Dog crap and veg stuff can and will find its way thru IME. So then you use goggles or glasses. Someone pointed at Bolle safety as good in this area...fine. Given there is no danger from the sky falling on your head in the UK anyway, the need for a full on safety hard hat like those used by arborists is redundant. I would say even counter intuitive in hot and bright conditions....but then we all knew that didnt we. I maintain that if the safety officer insist you do it his/her way at work..you simply comply boys and girls...!!

[quote name= Industry best practice for the novice is the way to go. . Infact everyone on here has broke industry guidelines probably every day. [/quote] You seem pretty sure about that Dean...rules and regs are not there to catch folk out but more to warn of the dangers involved, often derived from experince

Point taken ..you are guessing...I say hammer it all the same or it will fail anyway!!!? ( now I'm guessing )

DdRT..... Cant see the point of your query . Its contextual enough I think.

http://arabidopsis.info/students/agrobacterium/ They look anything like this ?

Nice one!!

What did you get from them Tony?

There are courses about for this topic 8-10 sept @ Stowlangtoft ( £250 excl VAT...no assessment ) NPTC assessment £90 + vat but + reg fee £25 What do we know about the NPTC quals? Any good? What does it cover Ridging bracing,flex cables & rope, propping & inspection...soundz pretty interesting to me!"! About that Arboa...why does he fiddle so much with the product...new materials maybe...he writes about all his patents as tho' its a good thing...god forbid he just cant get it right...no offence!!!