Making the news today....

[skyhuck]

Just now, Mark J said:

You suggested that he may be on 'The Spectrum'.  As far as I'm aware, you're the only one who's voiced that opinion, I haven't seen it elsewhere.  Personally, I think the guy's a psychopath.

I would be very surprised if the article Gary mentioned did not refer to those successful people being "on the spectrum", its pretty old news.

 

Isac Newton is thought to have been Autistic.

[Gary Prentice]

13 minutes ago, skyhuck said:

Comparing those with Aspergers or Autism, with Psychopaths is pretty low.

Talk about putting words in my mouth! Idiot.

[skyhuck]

1 minute ago, Gary Prentice said:

Talk about putting words in my mouth! Idiot.

Do you care to give a link to the article?

 

Name calling, how very childish.

[Mark J]

2 minutes ago, skyhuck said:

I would be very surprised if the article Gary mentioned did not refer to those successful people being "on the spectrum", its pretty old news.

 

Isac Newton is thought to have been Autistic.

I have mildly autistic friends and have friends who are support workers for those who need it. I am in no way seeking to dilute the intellect of people.

 

If BlowJo had Autism/Aspergers, I'm sure we'd have heard about it by now.  Nope, he's an entitled manipulator of the highest order.

 

 

[Gary Prentice]

12 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Where did he do that? 

He didn't.  Dave decided that he knew the article I'd read , added what he thought would or should have been also in it (it wasn't mentioned) and then on behalf of all those sufferers of an illness I didn't mention took umbrage 

[skyhuck]

2 minutes ago, Mark J said:

I have mildly autistic friends and have friends who are support workers for those who need it. I am in no way seeking to dilute the intellect of people.

 

If BlowJo had Autism/Aspergers, I'm sure we'd have heard about it by now.  Nope, he's an entitled manipulator of the highest order.

 

 

I have a good deal of first hand experience of people with Aspergers, my comment if you recall was that it can lead to inappropriate comments, with no malice.

 

I have no real interest in defending Boris, I was referring to the comment about successful people. Its well know, IMO, that many hugely talented and successful, intelligent  people are on the Autistic spectrum. I personally have never heard that said about Psychopaths, maybe I'm wrong.   

[Mark J]

1 minute ago, skyhuck said:

I have a good deal of first hand experience of people with Aspergers, my comment if you recall was that it can lead to inappropriate comments, with no malice.

 

I have no real interest in defending Boris, I was referring to the comment about successful people. Its well know, IMO, that many hugely talented and successful, intelligent  people are on the Autistic spectrum. I personally have never heard that said about Psychopaths, maybe I'm wrong.   

I agree with what you say.

 

My point was, that I suspect Boris Johnson to be well aware of what he's doing, why he's doing it, and the effect it will have on people.  Which in my (admitedly limited) ecperience, is a trait of someone with a personality disorder, not the actions of someone with Aspergers/autism.

[Vespasian]

I believe research has suggested the most successful people have a high IQ and for some reason are pretty lazy with it, I know it don't make sense but there you go..

 

I've ruminated on Boris along the same lines a time or two...  he's oft quoted as being lazy by fellow ministers... and he certainly is bright...

 

 Its just a pity he's mucked up his calculations, he sided with brexit on account of wanting to appeal to the thousands of middle aged women in the conservative party who tend to vote right when they vote for a leader.. his appeal to that constituent forced him to go for Brexit..

 

I dare say he knows full well he's mucked up, and all he can do is salvage what he can.. but its all a bit to late, his machinations has attracted more than enough political enemies to keep him out the job....

 

Which is a pity, as I believe he'd of made a good Prime Minister...  the road to hell is laid with good intentions springs to mind...  

[Mick Dempsey]

*paved with good intentions.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

5 hours ago, Gary Prentice said:

An article I read recently was claiming that many of the most successful people, particularly in business, had a particular character trait - a lackey of empathy for those around them.

 

Strangely enough this a trait shared by psychopaths. 

 

So maybe not stupid per se... 

 

edit. Charles Manson also had a cult like following

I think you're spot on Gary!

 

I had to dig back to a book I read recently and I'd like to share a passage from it.  2 reasons really, 1, because I think you're spot on with Boris and 2, that I think (if the extract is to be believed) many more of us than actually think so might share some psychopathic tendencies.  

 

Veronica: of the Chapman family, 2010, Freedom is more than just a seven-letter word, 2nd Ed, Milton Keynes, Tamare House.

 

Chapter 5: Global Elites/Psychopaths

 

"...I'll simply quotes ONE, verifiable, medical/genetic statistic: "One in every 25 people are born psychopathic." That's a quote from the studious works of Psychologist Andrew M. Lobaczewski.  See his book Political Ponerology: a science on the Nature of Evil Adjusted for Political Purposes (1998).

 

Since there are 4 x 25 in every hundred, this means 4 people in every hundred, or 4% of the total population are psychopathic.  According to my arithmetic, and taking the population of the United Kingdom as 60 million people, that means there are 2,400,000 psychopaths out there.

 

Does that mean 2.4 million 'axe murderers'?  Well no, not exactly, as you will see, but it does mean that there is the potential for 2.4 million 'axe murderers'.  Phychopaths-in-society tend to be much more subtle.  (And get a heck of a lot further than axe murderers, as we will see).

 

It all comes down to what a psychopath actually is.  Put simply it is a person who has conscience.  No compassion towards others.  No empathy towards them.  Unable to feel guilt, or shame.

 

How does this occur?  It occurs because of the lack of a gene in such a person's DNA. The gene that creates 'feelings towards others'..."  

 

The book is a fascinating read and the passage extracted above is only a snippet of the whole chapter which I found truly enlightening.  

 

On the off chance anyone wants a lend, I'd be happy to mail out so long as it comes back.