Making the news today....

[Johnsond]

17 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

could this be yet another example of whataboutery?

You’d have to ask the expert, as stated it’s interesting to see the different level of outrage. 

Edited January 9 by Johnsond

[Mark J]

49 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

I rest my case Mark. Leftard arrogance from yourself as usual brought on by a huge dose of TDS. 
Reality is I’m not overly fussed about her death, whilst it’s a shame some kids have lost their biological mother, life goes on. That’s not being callous it’s just the reality of things. 

Nowt to do with with leftard anything. It's just you communicating like a toddler.

[NJA]

Unfortunately, sadly unbeknown to her 6 months ago he asked someone to stop and they didn't, which very nearly killed him.  When he asked this person to stop and she didn't, experience told him his life was in danger and asking people nicely who don't obey can kill you.

If you nearly get killed, next time you're in that situation instinct and training tells you to act.

Very sad, hindsight is a wonderful thing.

As @Squaredy says, whatever country you're in, just do what an armed under pressure cop tells you, whether you agree with it or not.  Its the person without the gun who unfortunately is the loser.

Like when a pedal bike carves up a lorry on a busy junction.  If there's a collision, whoever is in the right or wrong, the bike is always the loser and there's no round 2.

 

[Steven P]

30 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

I’m pleased you find the  situation amusing SP/TA 

If an armed officer was standing on the line of cones would you still drive through them. 
Anyway all the leftard TDS outrage won’t bring her back. 
So what’s your views on the multiple protestor deaths at the hands of the Islamists, men women and children desperate to get out from under that oppressive regime ??. 

 

 

I am assuming you mean the protestors killed in Tehran? I also assume that you will go off on one unless we agree with you that law enforcement killing civilians for not following orders is acceptable? 

 

Reality is it’s a shame some kids have lost their biological parents, life goes on. That’s not being callous it’s just the reality of things. 

[Johnsond]

12 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Nowt to do with with leftard anything. It's just you communicating like a toddler.

I’m keeping it factual and simple for you lad, don’t be a prick eh it’s not a given every Friday you know. 
You suffer badly from TDS as you are aware. Try and be objective occasionally 

[Johnsond]

12 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

 

I am assuming you mean the protestors killed in Tehran? I also assume that you will go off on one unless we agree with you that law enforcement killing civilians for not following orders is acceptable? 

 

Reality is it’s a shame some kids have lost their biological parents, life goes on. That’s not being callous it’s just the reality of things. 

Cool seeing as you are being cooperative how about the outstanding questions that have been put to you. 
You’ve been told before about stealing other people’s material 😞

Edited January 9 by Johnsond

[JLA1990]

Interesting but albeit predictable take today; I’m currently in America and was in a gun store and the ICE shooting came on the tv - I asked the staff what there take was, all five including a couple of other shoppers confirmed it was justified. All admitted it was a shame she died, but it was justifiable and the shooting was deserved as she didn’t comply and then appeared to drive towards the officer. One of the shoppers was an ex cop, he confirmed his training and current training is to incapacitate the driver (not the vehicle) if a threat to life/injury is imminent. I should also state as they were the driver of the vehicle which in the scenario is considered a lethal weapon, shoot to kill is justified. 

Edited January 10 by JLA1990

[Mesterh]

3 hours ago, Johnsond said:

🧐 On January 7, 2026, a mother of three was shot and killed in Minneapolis during a federal immigration operation. The facts are disputed, the video is being parsed frame by frame, and the politics are already hardening.

But there’s a deeper inversion here that has nothing to do with your preferred narrative.

We are teaching people that obstructing law enforcement is a form of virtue. Not voting. Not persuading. Not suing. Not organizing. Obstructing. Physically inserting yourself into a high-voltage encounter and calling it righteousness.

That moral inversion has a cost, and it rarely gets paid by the activist alone.

She left behind three children. They did not volunteer for her cause. They don’t get to vote on her risk tolerance. They don’t get to opt out of the consequences. They just inherit them.

Here’s the hard truth the commentary keeps dodging: when you’re a parent, your “values” are not a private hobby. They are choices that shape someone else’s entire life downstream. Your family is not a side character in your public morality play. They’re the first obligation. Or they’re supposed to be.

“The Cause” cannot raise your children. 

If you want to fight immigration policy, there are lawful lanes: elections, legislation, court challenges, journalism, organizing, peaceful protest that doesn’t cross into direct confrontation. You can be fierce without gambling your children’s future on an encounter you cannot control.

This is the moral inversion: we’re applauding behavior that a sane civilization would recognize as a reckless prioritization of political emotion over parental duty.

I’m not saying her children were unloved. I’m saying they were left unprotected by the very culture that tells adults, especially parents, that “the cause” is a higher calling than the people who depend on them.

Tragedy should produce compassion. It should also produce clarity. When we sanctify obstruction as heroism, we encourage the next person to step closer to the edge. And when they fall, it won’t just be their life that hits the ground.

It will be the lives tethered to theirs
 

 

They wouldn’t have been be there.
 She was well aware of who she was dealing with and what her role was that day. 

Weird reply but ok. 

 

Any sympathy for the woman who got her brains blown out?

 

 

[Johnsond]

17 minutes ago, Mesterh said:

Weird reply but ok. 

 

Any sympathy for the woman who got her brains blown out?

 

 

Not really 

[Steve Bullman]

6 hours ago, Gabriel82 said:

I finally watched the video of this woman and shooting. 

 

People ,let me be clear and honest: 

 

Even HERE in Romania where only few authority people own and can use guns (real bullet 9mm or bigger) , if you see blue and red "blinky lights" on the road you get the fck off the road. 

 

Or at least move to the side as much as you can ,slow down as much as you can. 

 

And in the case of red only "blinky lights" you fully stop as much as you can off the road! 

 

That's a firefighting vehicle ON mission(somebody or something IS burning...).

 

And it happened to me too: police car on mission coming from other side ,were very nice with me for at least trying to make room even if that meant going half car on sidewalk...

 

I got stopped around 00:30 at night for speeding (badly 37km/h over speed limit... luckily I was slowing down there, few km before I was doing 160 km/h...) with blue/red blinky lights.

 

Because I stopped imediately in seconds safely ,stayed in my car ,turned on the interior light so cops can see I obey law and keeping my hands on steering wheel(law around here) until one cop came to my window and asked for the normal things you must have while driving. 

 

I got away with the lowest fine ,said so even by cop, because of my behaviour. 

 

He didn't knew it ,but I was stopped numerous times by british cops,  german cops, austrian cops at night very rude because I am romanian with romanian number plates and I always got away with no fine. 

 

Even in Austria for a broken light bulb right on left side...

 

Since everything was so well lit in that area I  honestly haven"t noticed... 

 

They left but told me to NOT continue my journey home until I fix the left broken light bulb... So I can see where I drive and be safe plus not endanger other drivers.

 

I don't know what was wrong with this woman ,but to BE in the middle of the road with a big SUV , behave like that even when you see red-blue blinky lights IN USA...

 

HAS to be suicidal , considering how US police sees things and how many guns are around!

 

And really, how hard is it to get off the fcnk road if you see red-blue blinky light OR especially obey what guys with guns drawn that just got down FROM the red-blue blinky car  tell you?! 

 

I do not understand her behaviour! 

 

Just judging from actual video I can honestly say nothing to see here ,nothing will happen to ICE agent.

 

She wanted to die. 

Or she was drunk ,drugged, mentaly impaired for the moment! 

 

There is no other explanation for what happened! 

 

And this is how ambush happens: one big truck in front of the target and one behind! 

 

Then OTHER people with guns start shooting! 

 

ICE guys were allready itching to shoot since seeing first car blocking the road...

 

I think it's in their training. 

 

ICE or even normal police in US receive training from army recently. 

 

Besides not usual guns(criminals sonetimes have(had) better/bigger weapons than police...

 

So army+ army training stepped in...

 

Sorry for her but just beeing in USA is dangerous, more so now. 

 

Behaving like that ,WILL get you killed.

This is basically my thinking. She shouldn’t have been shot, but at the same time what was she thinking?