Making the news today....

[Steve Bullman]

14 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Read that as well.

Wait and see I guess.

Well it doesn’t really matter to most people….too bad it will be weaponised by some though 

[Mesterh]

6 hours ago, monkeybusiness said:

I cannot believe the bravery shown by the guy who took the gun off the terrorist - absolutely incredible. 

It was very impressive to say the least. Big respect to that man. 💪

 

I hear that he took a couple of bullets from the shooter on the bridge but is doing good. 

 

[Joe Newton]

21 minutes ago, Steve Bullman said:

Well it doesn’t really matter to most people….too bad it will be weaponised by some though 

Personally, it would restore my faith in humanity somewhat if it turned out to be an "Ahmed".

 

As long as he wasn't just embarrassed about the clumsy mass shooting and wanted to show the shooter hope it was done...

[AHPP]

While the tasteful period of time expires and everyone can then get to deporting foreigners, criminals, foreign criminals etc, I'll get in first with my cause.

 

The Australian state bars people from carrying firearms for self defence. Let's say there were 1000 jews in the park. Let's say it was all families of husband + wife + two kids. 250 men. The jews know everyone hates them. They're also fighters. If 10% of the 250 men there were carrying, that would be 25 armed men. That's a platoon. If the 2 chancers knew what they might be up against, would they have done it? I suspect only if they wanted to appear on the front page of Jew Today, full of holes, under the headline, 'DON'T MESS WITH JEWS.'

 

Death toll currently 15. We can safely assume all 15 of them were praying for the (armed) police to arrive in seconds, not minutes. At least some of them will have been crouched behind a bin, thinking, "Christ. I need a gun, now.

 

And some politician (with armed guards that the little people pay for) will look into the eyes of their widows, widowers, orphans etc and say no. Indefensible.

[Steve Bullman]

Am I being thick? What’s the actual difference 🙄

 

Volodymyr Zelensky is to give up his ambitions for Ukraine to join Nato – in exchange for security guarantees from the US and Europe.

 

 

Zelensky gives up Nato ambitions in peace deal concession

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Ukraine offers to ditch long-held aspiration in hope of kickstarting negotiations with Trump’s envoys

 

[Johnsond]

16 minutes ago, Steve Bullman said:

Am I being thick? What’s the actual difference 🙄

 

Volodymyr Zelensky is to give up his ambitions for Ukraine to join Nato – in exchange for security guarantees from the US and Europe.

 

 

Zelensky gives up Nato ambitions in peace deal concession

APPLE.NEWS

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Ukraine offers to ditch long-held aspiration in hope of kickstarting negotiations with Trump’s...

 

The safety guarantees didn’t do them any favours in 2014. 
Probably an easier agreement to get out of Steve rather than abandoning a fellow NATO Member. 

[Steve Bullman]

9 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

The safety guarantees didn’t do them any favours in 2014. 
Probably an easier agreement to get out of Steve rather than abandoning a fellow NATO Member. 

I personally think the whole nato thing is a massive bluff that’s yet to be put to the test other than against small countries that are considered a walkover 

[Johnsond]

17 minutes ago, Steve Bullman said:

I personally think the whole nato thing is a massive bluff that’s yet to be put to the test other than against small countries that are considered a walkover 

Maybe during the Cold War when west Germany was littered with NATO forces including our own BAOR  it was literally ready to fight at a few hours notice. Nowadays I’m not sure, we in particular just don’t have the armed forces anymore and is the leadership and political will there ?? . 
4 years in and it’s still nothing more than wind and piss about increased defence spending. 
Right now  the USA calls the shots, Europe including the UK only has themselves to blame. 

[Oldfeller]

The way shit is going down here, the next war will be within this country,don't just read the room, the country,  read the feckin' world,UK, France, Hungary, Poland, and many others are realising they are being invaded, often with the blessing of those they expected to prevent it, and they will eventually have had enough, and rise up and unite against the threat. 

people have been pushed for to long, too far, resistance is mounting fast, the push back is not going to be gentle or pretty.

[Mike Hill]

7 hours ago, Johnsond said:

Maybe during the Cold War when west Germany was littered with NATO forces including our own BAOR  it was literally ready to fight at a few hours notice. Nowadays I’m not sure, we in particular just don’t have the armed forces anymore and is the leadership and political will there ?? . 
4 years in and it’s still nothing more than wind and piss about increased defence spending. 
Right now  the USA calls the shots, Europe including the UK only has themselves to blame. 

 

It was commonly thought that Dave and in the late 60's BAOR probably had war reserves. By the late 80s some of the armoured devisions didnt have enough ammo to bomb up all their tanks but that was ok since there wernt enough trucks to resupply or any ammo reserves.

 

I am with Steve on Nato,its a paper Tiger. Especially with Germany buying Russian gas but sending Tanks to Ukraine. The Russians have parked a load of old Nuclear reactors up by the Norwegian border and the european nuclear energy comission pays for the upkeep of the site.

 

Total farce,the Ukraine war is an unprecidented grift opportunity. Like the Norwegian firm selling £300  neck scarf's that can be bulk bought for £3.