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[Steven P]

3 hours ago, Johnsond said:

No we ****************ing ain’t all the same and never will be. Libtard  land and the reality of human nature are two separate things. If you knew the events leading up to the death of the unfortunate kid below you’d understand how deluded and wrong  your comment is. 

 

What's that, the NHS, a rare proper Arbtalk discussion going on too much for you so back to where you feel comfortable, back to your intolerance and hatred, "Arn't all Muslims bad people" ?

 

Forget all the good things that the NHS does, lets bring some hate to the room.

[Steven P]

Anyway, as you were... NHS and Farage.

 

He is going to hunt high and low for efficiencies, waste, and savings. The same that the Tories have done for 15 years, the same that Labour are doing now and did before the Tories.

 

Do you think that if there is massive inefficiencies and waste they'd had found it in the last 20 years? If not it is well hidden... but no worries, Farage will find it. (to cross thread a bit, same a Musk in the US was going to find trillions of waste... he didn't).

 

Pretty much in all public services there is no waste, there is no budget for it. 'Waste' is another term for "Cutting stuff we don't like politically... but cannot say that outright".

[Stubby]

6 hours ago, Oldfeller said:

Purely from a hypothetical viewpoint, how would all you hard working arborists  feel about an influx of other arborists all of whom would undercut your rates severely.

and those that didn't simply roamed around stealing your tools,your fuel,abusing  your wife and children,  and every day more came, would you just pack up and sit  and watch it happen.

We got that already . The " do as you likeys " 

[Oldfeller]

44 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

What's that, the NHS, a rare proper Arbtalk discussion going on too much for you so back to where you feel comfortable, back to your intolerance and hatred, "Arn't all Muslims bad people" ?

 

Forget all the good things that the NHS does, lets bring some hate to the room.

well it was a decent discussion til you showed up and saw another opportunity to accuse your favorite adversary of race hatred, and carry on the senior dating bullshit, nobody mentioned Muslims,just you.

feck me mate give yer head a wobble.

[Johnsond]

2 hours ago, Steven P said:

Pretty much in all public services there is no waste

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤷‍♂️
Spoken like a true 37hr a week public sector dweller, I would say worker but judging by the amount of time you spend on here I’ll refrain. 
no waste 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Edited July 5 by Johnsond

[Oldfeller]

The statement "in all public services there is no waste" is not accurate. Public services, like any large organization, experience inefficiencies and waste in various forms. While efforts are made to minimize waste and maximize efficiency, challenges remain in areas such as procurement, resource allocation, and service delivery. 

 

Here's a more detailed look:

• Inefficiencies exist:

  Public services, including healthcare, education, and infrastructure, face inherent challenges in resource allocation, procurement processes, and service delivery that can lead to inefficiencies and waste. 

   
• Wasteful spending:

  There are instances of wasteful spending in public services, such as overspending on certain projects, inadequate planning, or lack of proper oversight. 

   
• Need for reform:

  Many reports and organizations highlight the need for public service reform to improve efficiency and reduce waste. 

   
• Examples of waste:

  Examples of waste in public services can include:

  • Healthcare: Unnecessary hospital admissions, inefficient procurement of medical supplies, and duplication of services. 
     
  • Education: Inefficient use of resources, poorly targeted spending, and lack of accountability. 
     
  • Infrastructure: Overpriced contracts, delays in project completion, and inadequate maintenance of existing infrastructure. 
     
• Efforts to reduce waste:

  Governments and public bodies are actively working to reduce waste in public services through various initiatives, including:

  • Value for money reviews: Scrutinizing spending to ensure it provides value for money. 
     
  • Efficiency savings targets: Setting targets for departments to reduce spending and improve efficiency. 
     
  • Procurement reforms: Improving the way public bodies purchase goods and services. 
     
  • Technology adoption: Utilizing technology to streamline processes and improve efficiency. 
     
  • Circular economy initiatives: Promoting the reuse and recycling of resources to minimize waste. 
     

In conclusion, while efforts are continuously being made to minimize waste in public services, it is not realistic to state that there is no waste at all. Addressing the challenges of waste requires ongoing vigilance, reform, and a commitment to efficient and effective service delivery

[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, Steven P said:

Arn't all Muslims bad people" ?

Show me where that was said  Blagger 

[Bolt]

23 minutes ago, Oldfeller said:

The statement "in all public services there is no waste" is not accurate. Public services, like any large organization, experience inefficiencies and waste in various forms. While efforts are made to minimize waste and maximize efficiency, challenges remain in areas such as procurement, resource allocation, and service delivery. 

 

Here's a more detailed look:

• Inefficiencies exist:

  Public services, including healthcare, education, and infrastructure, face inherent challenges in resource allocation, procurement processes, and service delivery that can lead to inefficiencies and waste. 

   
• Wasteful spending:

  There are instances of wasteful spending in public services, such as overspending on certain projects, inadequate planning, or lack of proper oversight. 

   
• Need for reform:

  Many reports and organizations highlight the need for public service reform to improve efficiency and reduce waste. 

   
• Examples of waste:

  Examples of waste in public services can include:

  • Healthcare: Unnecessary hospital admissions, inefficient procurement of medical supplies, and duplication of services. 
     
  • Education: Inefficient use of resources, poorly targeted spending, and lack of accountability. 
     
  • Infrastructure: Overpriced contracts, delays in project completion, and inadequate maintenance of existing infrastructure. 
     
• Efforts to reduce waste:

  Governments and public bodies are actively working to reduce waste in public services through various initiatives, including:

  • Value for money reviews: Scrutinizing spending to ensure it provides value for money. 
     
  • Efficiency savings targets: Setting targets for departments to reduce spending and improve efficiency. 
     
  • Procurement reforms: Improving the way public bodies purchase goods and services. 
     
  • Technology adoption: Utilizing technology to streamline processes and improve efficiency. 
     
  • Circular economy initiatives: Promoting the reuse and recycling of resources to minimize waste. 
     

In conclusion, while efforts are continuously being made to minimize waste in public services, it is not realistic to state that there is no waste at all. Addressing the challenges of waste requires ongoing vigilance, reform, and a commitment to efficient and effective service delivery

You may have strayed a little into Chatbotese there!

 

[Mesterh]

8 hours ago, Bolt said:

Take my money!!

I'll hazard at a guess that if the NHS was abolished/privatised you would see the insurance premium's skyrocket. ATM you don't have to pay for health insurance so they can be competitive, once you have no choice they will just put the prices up, and hike them up to the hilt they will. They are just business just looking to make as much money as possible. 

 

I'll pass on privatising the NHS and moving to a US system of health care. 

 

In your post about it costing 2k a year for a family of 4 does that cover everything and would they also include things like known chronic illnesses and how long does it cover you for if for example one of you is 70 years old etc? Do they pay the NHS for emergency care? Eg, a car accident, the NHS picks you up gets you to a hospital and saves your life, keeps you in a bed until your stable then what, do they ship you to a private hospital and bill your insurance company for the costs?

I've never had private health insurance so I have no clue on here it works. I've had car insurance for a long time and I understand that they can cherry pick their customers and although I have untold years of no claims bonuses my premium goes up each bleeding year. It's never went down when I hit 25 or 30 or 40 and it will probably go up at a faster rate from now on!

 

 

 

 

[Bolt]

Yes, this is pretty much the conclusion I came to.