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1 hour ago, Big J said:

And in 1948, whose bright idea was it to create a Jewish Holy Land in the middle of a bloody Islamic region? Surely it would have been about 99% less hassle to have given them an enclave within the US? You could fit Israel 11 times into Wyoming with space to spare. 

 

Unfortunate geography as to where Jerusalem is - the whole thing is muddied with religion, politics, war mongers and all, all wanting to have a say

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1 hour ago, Steve Bullman said:

Carries a sword for an hour, thinks she’s braveheart 

Talking of Braveheart, I’d rather Penny be having a firm grip of the Hilt than that creature Sturgeon. 

 

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7 hours ago, Big J said:

 

 

There is no good outcome that I can see. 

 

Firstly, Israel shouldn't be there. It came about due to the rise of Zionism in the early 20th Century and then Western guilt after WW2. And the post colonial dividing up of the Middle East that paid no heed to cultural borders. 

You are right about no good outcome but it was a mixture of americans not wanting an influx of eastern europeans and needing somewhere else for them and the american anti colonial attitude that forced the exit of european governments too hurriedly that caused much bloodshed in the far and middle east.

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To be fair, the Jews were there a long time before any Muslims or Christians, so they've got a pretty decent claim on the place. They fought long and hard to exterminate all of the other societies from the area, as anyone who has read their Bible will know.

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Muslims hate Jews because they rejected mohammed, when he took his newly created religion of islam to them and told them he was their messiah. The Jews were looking for their true Messiah (and still are), and would not have mohammed's version. One of Hamas core principles and ideas is the extermination of Jews. 

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