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[trigger_andy]

15 minutes ago, Stubby said:

What do you think is looming the Andy ?

I doubt they’ve spent millions if not billions upgrading everyone to a Smart Meter so it’s slightly less inconvenient for us to take a reading. 

[Stubby]

2 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

I doubt they’ve spent millions if not billions upgrading everyone to a Smart Meter so it’s slightly less inconvenient for us to take a reading. 

Go on ...

[openspaceman]

2 hours ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Our’s is in the house. 
But there’s also this plastic thing on the outside that they put another ‘reader’ against for some reason.

I wonder if that is just a remote reader, like we have on water meters and unlike the cellphone sim based transmitters smart electricity meters use here.

 

I believe from what has been said on another forum that the French have less tolerance of homes drawing more than the amount of electricity the system allots for them and cuts off if it is exceeded at the consumer unit, requiring a visit to reset it.

 

Our system allow for diversity and should allow any house to draw 15kW but not if everyone does so at the same time. With electricity demand for car charging, heat pumps and electric cooking set to increase this is why having smart meters that can stagger these overnight loads will be necessary.

[Johnsond]

2 hours ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Dempsey on the bite again 🤔. 
Keep it up with the ridicule and Moonbat get out jibes 👍they will stand you in good stead, on another topic that you personally threw many a derisory jibe out over it’s funny how the Chinese have just about said **************** it and we in the UK ain’t even bothering publishing stats anymore, mission accomplished me thinks for now. Covid !!!! what  covid, just be a good lad and pay the tab please. 

[trigger_andy]

23 minutes ago, Stubby said:

Go on ...

Well not to delve into Moonbat territory but spunking that much on Smartmeters and the almost constant bombardment of advertising/propaganda to have one installed coupled with the slow but sure enforcement to have one installed including only offering the best rates if you get one installed is clearly not for our benefit is it? 
 

If you look at how the Energy Companies, Offcom and the Government have held us in utter contempt during the supposed Energy Crisis you’d have to be deluded to believe that installing a Smart Meter is for the Consumers benefit at all. In fact the benefits touted for installing one is the supposed savings that come with their installation is purely from your own personal monitoring of your own personal usage. 
 

So only time will tell how the millions upon millions invested is clawed back and how it will be used in their favour. 

[Macpherson]

2 hours ago, Stubby said:

I have had a smart meter for about 3 years now and not noticed any real difference . Still pay by direct debit and not been contacted at all since it was installed . Saves me reading the meter and that's about it .

 

It's convenient, and to me convenience is the thin end of a very thin wedge, if you ask the question 'can I be switched of remotely' the answer is absolutely not... and to me that the means just the opposite, but I may be wrong🙄.

[Johnsond]

42 minutes ago, openspaceman said:

I wonder if that is just a remote reader, like we have on water meters and unlike the cellphone sim based transmitters smart electricity meters use here.

 

I believe from what has been said on another forum that the French have less tolerance of homes drawing more than the amount of electricity the system allots for them and cuts off if it is exceeded at the consumer unit, requiring a visit to reset it.

 

Our system allow for diversity and should allow any house to draw 15kW but not if everyone does so at the same time. With electricity demand for car charging, heat pumps and electric cooking set to increase this is why having smart meters that can stagger these overnight loads will be necessary.

So who is that decides wether you are turned off or not ?? Bit of a worry  if you need your vehicle in the morning and you wanted to be warm too during a cold night !!!.

[openspaceman]

8 minutes ago, Macpherson said:

 

It's convenient, and to me convenience is the thin end of a very thin wedge, if you ask the question 'can I be switched of remotely' the answer is absolutely not... and to me that the means just the opposite, but I may be wrong🙄.

It can definitely be turned off remotely but I have not hear anyone it has happened to yet.

[openspaceman]

2 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

So who is that decides wether you are turned off or not ?? Bit of a worry  if you need your vehicle in the morning and you wanted to be warm too during a cold night !!!.

I have no idea who decides, it will probably be an AI algoritm, not so much to switch it off  but more to delay which households, on which phase, from the substation can start charging or heating. The aim is to spread the instantaneous load such that everyone gets the same time to charge or heat in the off peak period.

 

With wind, as at 19:45 26/12/22, providing half of UK electricity, 16GW worth, followed by nuclear from here and France doing 25% and gas gently providing 2.3GW  it may well be that the wind generators will need to be curtailed tonight when the demand drops and this unpredictability is the reason for wanting to shift loads to off peak periods. Plus of course the grid and distribution network has to cope too.

[Johnsond]

8 minutes ago, openspaceman said:

It can definitely be turned off remotely but I have not hear anyone it has happened to yet.

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Canada's prime minister says police will also be given "more tools" to imprison or fine...

Having a system where the state or anyone can shut you down in any way shape or form is not a great idea, Canada pre covid was viewed as a model democratic state. No one ever would have imagined the above happening. That’s not conspiracy Dempsey, Trudeau went through with it over vaccine mandates, a vaccine I’d say people are more wary of now than then as the information of its side effects keep coming out.