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13 hours ago, Mesterh said:

Enlighten me then. How does crashing the economy and causing very expensive long term health issues benefit the government at all? What are they controlling without mentioning vaccine, Bill Gates and microchip in the same sentence. 

I would really like to know what this control is, why are they doing it and how are they benefiting from it rather than send us all back to work, get taxed and spend our money to net more tax? Genuine question.

 

Every government is trying to control this new virus much to theirs and our expense except Brazil and the USA which seems to be going quite well eh.  If your numbers are that low then they must have done something right, just like New Zealand, until they let the Brits back in ?

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There is sound reasoning behind some rules.  No booze on trains. A pissed passenger falling on lines (  esp live rails) costs a fortune. A pissed passenger being hit by a train can take driver out of a job ( three strikes an yr out ) wearing a mask to prevent even minor contact is sensible. No failsafe but sensible. I see far too many assholes on trains an i doo shout at them an the BTP deal with them if its severe enuff.  It makes a difference to people to feel a bit safer. Its mine and everyone elses job to do that. K

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41 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

I’m not your pal I dont use trains and shout if you want but you will be shouted back at. It’s supposedly a free country I dont need jobsworth types telling me what to do. 
As an aside wearing them on a packed train I can see some logic but in a huge supermarket after over 100 days is total stupidity. I don’t think the train will actually be yours by the way. I know train sets etc as a kid were cool but the it’s my train set I’ll do what I want mentality might not be appropriate for a grown man. 
 

Competent person in Charge  or on Possesion of ?  K

Posted
1 hour ago, Khriss said:

Competent person in Charge  or on Possesion of ?  K

Been there done that PTS and PICOW  for a long time years ago. 

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Masks in shops, in England we don't currently have to but if we do then so be it, the government's done a fine job of cocking it all up so far, so a few sticking plasters are a bit late but wouldn't go amiss really to try and reduce further spread now we're 24 hours away from Boris's free for all, good luck reopening.

How did you feel about being forced to wear a seatbelt or motorbike helmet, was that also a removal of your freedoms and rights? What about if they decided cyclists had to wear helmets. Lots choose to anyway after seeing what can  happen if you don't, to protect themselves and/or save others from having to pick up the pieces after a crash. At least we can live in hope that compulsory mask wearing is likely to be a temporary measure to help people to protect themselves and others.  Helmets and seatbelts don't save everyone from the effect of a crash but go some way towards it. If you look at it like masks really, or safety glasses, or ear defenders, or chainsaw gloves, or airbags, or age restrictions on selling knives) fireworks/ alcohol or ..... 

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2 minutes ago, Youngstu said:

Masks in shops, in England we don't currently have to but if we do then so be it, the government's done a fine job of cocking it all up so far, so a few sticking plasters are a bit late but wouldn't go amiss really to try and reduce further spread now we're 24 hours away from Boris's free for all, good luck reopening.

How did you feel about being forced to wear a seatbelt or motorbike helmet, was that also a removal of your freedoms and rights? What about if they decided cyclists had to wear helmets. Lots choose to anyway after seeing what can  happen if you don't, to protect themselves and/or save others from having to pick up the pieces after a crash. At least we can live in hope that compulsory mask wearing is likely to be a temporary measure to help people to protect themselves and others.  Helmets and seatbelts don't save everyone from the effect of a crash but go some way towards it. If you look at it like masks really, or safety glasses, or ear defenders, or chainsaw gloves, or airbags, or age restrictions on selling knives) fireworks/ alcohol or ..... 

No,no,no ,no no. All those stupid rules are in place just to supress and control us, it's got nothing to do with saving lives and keeping medical costs down ? 

Those in power get an endorphin hit every time someone belts up.

 

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1 hour ago, Mesterh said:

No,no,no ,no no. All those stupid rules are in place just to supress and control us, it's got nothing to do with saving lives and keeping medical costs down ? 

Those in power get an endorphin hit every time someone belts up.

 

Keep obeying every rule and don’t think for yourself ?if that suits you fine. Just a little example of the micro management of people that is being imposed. If you think that’s fine that’s your call, me I think it’s going way way too far. As for saving lives and protecting the NHS that’s long since been proven to be complete rubbish. NHS has never been anywhere near overwhelmed, the huge multi million pound purpose built hospitals are empty. Keeping costs down !!! Are you insane ? the cost of this overreaction is off the scale.  
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1 hour ago, Youngstu said:

Masks in shops, in England we don't currently have to but if we do then so be it, the government's done a fine job of cocking it all up so far, so a few sticking plasters are a bit late but wouldn't go amiss really to try and reduce further spread now we're 24 hours away from Boris's free for all, good luck reopening.

How did you feel about being forced to wear a seatbelt or motorbike helmet, was that also a removal of your freedoms and rights? What about if they decided cyclists had to wear helmets. Lots choose to anyway after seeing what can  happen if you don't, to protect themselves and/or save others from having to pick up the pieces after a crash. At least we can live in hope that compulsory mask wearing is likely to be a temporary measure to help people to protect themselves and others.  Helmets and seatbelts don't save everyone from the effect of a crash but go some way towards it. If you look at it like masks really, or safety glasses, or ear defenders, or chainsaw gloves, or airbags, or age restrictions on selling knives) fireworks/ alcohol or ..... 

wearing a helmet on a motorcycle or a seatbelt have unquestionable statistical and scientific evidence to prove that they save lives so no problem with that at all, whilst wearing a safety helmet on a bicycle is a choice I’d say most definitely it’s a wise choice to do so, but none of the above can in any way be attributed to many of the restrictions applied over the last 100 days plus. As for Boris and the supposed free for all you refer too !!! Would that be people being allowed to think for themselves perhaps ?‍♂️. realistically how long do you think this current insane state of virtual economic paralysis can be sustained for. Great if you are on government or local authority payroll but for millions it’s causing untold misery and mental anguish on a daily basis. 
You keep believing the hysteria and following the rules I’ll use my own judgement based on what I have seen for the past 100 days plus. 
 

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