Making the news today....

[scbk]

3 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Not sure I entirely grasp what I think you might be trying to convey there Mark. 
 

It’s fairly safe to say however, there isn’t a widespread, smouldering discontent amongst the Cornish towards the Vikings, nor those of African origin, on the basis of the current day interpretation of the ‘crimes’ of their long passed ancestors.  
 

Cant say the same in relation to Cornish antipathy towards the English though, that iS alive and well (perhaps not with the same degree of venom as might be experienced in Scotland, and to a slightly lesser degree Wales, but alive and easily encountered on a daily basis none the less.)

 

I frequently experience those sideways glances, that unsettling feeling of suspicion, I’m called an Emmet and generally feel like a ‘foreigner’ and a second class citizen. 
 

It might be because I’m English and have my cream first, jam on top or it might be because I’m an abrasive barsteward by nature ?

 

Think I’ll start an ELM campaign in Cornwall and see if they’ll tear down a statue of Trevithick on the basis that it’s continued presence offends me because it reminds me I’m not Cornish.....

 

 

This is what's kinda funny, I hear there's been black lives matter protests in Inverness.

 

There's very few black people in the Highlands. (especially with lock down and no tourists)

 

 

Yes, there is racism here, but probably 95% of it is anti-english!!

 

 

 

#teuchter guilt

 

[Sutton]

15 minutes ago, scbk said:

This is what's kinda funny, I hear there's been black lives matter protests in Inverness.

I once heard a gobbit about the dialectic/accent of the Inverness inhabitants.

Apparently there were so many georgian english in the area (Fort George) that locals were affected by it.

Findhorn has had one affect of course but its good to find, its been naturalised again:

 

https://www.scotsman.com/news/english-inverness-not-so-fit-queen-2506688

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[Richard 1234]

2 hours ago, Mark J said:

They should get rid of monuments to people with shady pasts. Whack them in the empty houses of parliament when they build that new one in Milton Keynes, as a permanent reminder of what happens when the ruling classes get above their station.




 

They should be left where they are. With plaques explaining the rights and wrongs they have done in their lives.

they should not be out to destroy history just because it was bad. They could be looked on as a sign of how things have progressed.

[Puffingbilly413]

2 hours ago, Mark J said:

They should get rid of monuments to people with shady pasts. Whack them in the empty houses of parliament when they build that new one in Milton Keynes, as a permanent reminder of what happens when the ruling classes get above their station.




 

Who doesn't have a shady past (at least in somebody's view)?  It's all about, or should be about, historical context.  Going back in time and trying to judge people by today's standards is utterly futile.  Surely it's about how we act towards each other now? I will always remain fervently anti-racism and anti-bigotry, but I can't help but feel that the the violence and sentiment used in recent weeks has probably done more to inlame the situation and damage progress than otherwise.

 

My parents and grand-parents (white Scouse-Welsh types crossed with Huguenot ancestry) would have all been deemed 'racist' at one point.  It's what happened when demographics changed and people moved to a new region; there's a clash of cultures and something kicks back - are we all going to disown our relatives for just being a product of their time?  A hell of a lot has changed since the 'no dogs, no blacks, no irish of the 60s and 70s' and quite rightly for the good. 

 

Incidentally I did get called an English twat this week but that was by my wife.  She's from Arbroath.

[Logdaft]

14 hours ago, Mark J said:

They should get rid of monuments to people with shady pasts.




 

 

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

16 hours ago, Mark J said:

They should get rid of monuments to people with shady pasts. Whack them in the empty houses of parliament when they build that new one in Milton Keynes, as a permanent reminder of what happens when the ruling classes get above their station.




 

Just statues Mark, what about features of world heritage status?

[Mark J]

12 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Just statues Mark, what about features of world heritage status?

I don't know the answer to that. They've got rid of statues of Hitler and that seems to have gone down alright. They got rid of Jimmy Saville. Thatcher and Churchill next.

There's no evidence that the pyramids were built by slaves.

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[Mark J]

[Johnsond]

33 minutes ago, Mark J said:

I don't know the answer to that. They've got rid of statues of Hitler and that seems to have gone down alright. They got rid of Jimmy Saville. Thatcher and Churchill next.

There's no evidence that the pyramids were built by slaves.

So Mark you see no good in the leadership that Churchill provided at a point in History that could have conceivably brought about the destruction of the whole country ?? 
like all individuals he had flaws in his character as do you and I. 
Seems like the whole BLM media driven hype is causing nothing but division and a growing level of resentment at what looks like a attempt to rewrite history to suit the current accepted norms. 
 

[Mick Dempsey]

43 minutes ago, Mark J said:

I don't know the answer to that. They've got rid of statues of Hitler and that seems to have gone down alright. They got rid of Jimmy Saville. Thatcher and Churchill next.

There's no evidence that the pyramids were built by slaves.