Making the news today....

[Johnsond]

Regards inflation etc ex governor of the BOE was being interviewed this morning and blamed the actions of western governments during covid and the war in Ukraine for the current financial mess. He didn’t actually mention brexit once !!. His view on Sunaks action ie printing vast amounts of free money that resulted in a situation where more money was chasing a supply chain lockdown induced ever decreasing quantity of goods etc was that it resulted in where we are now inflation wise. Quite frankly for the fools out there who clamoured for more and more restrictions and support you really didn’t have to be a financial guru to see that long term it might not work out quite well🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️. On the same show you had Starmer peddling fantasy economics where we are all gonna get more for less yet refusing to explain how he’s gonna sort it out other than a windfall on oil and gas companies ( no mention of the huge extra profit that renewables and all other energy companies have made ) apparently Labour will quadruple offshore wind and there will be a green jobs bonanza??? We don’t build any of it here, we don’t install it, we don’t make the steel that most of the structures are constructed from etc etc, yet not once did anyone question him on the facts, the UK and Scotland in particular right now is being dishonestly portrayed to the gullible masses as a world leader in renewables. Not sure how we are supposed to cope during periods of low wind but the blatantly obvious nuclear energy part of a sensible mix never seems to be on Labours agenda. What we are is a tax payer funded massive cash cow for the predominantly overseas companies carrying out this work which will ultimately be paid for by you and me. But let’s not let the truth get in the way of a bit of media spin and distraction. 

[devon TWiG]

Re ...the foreign owned windfarms ...Simon Reeve did a series around the Lake District during lockdown times and he highlighted the fact about foreign  owned wind farms off Cumbria , ( Danish government I think !!)  I am not sure if any Solar panels are UK made .....

Edited October 23, 2022 by devon TWiG

[Johnsond]

8 minutes ago, devon TWiG said:

Re ...the foreign owned windfarms ...Simon Reeve did a series around the Lake District during lockdown times and he highlighted the fact about foreign  owned wind farms off Cumbria , ( Danish government I think !!)  I am not sure if any Solar panels are UK made .....

People are utterly oblivious to what’s going on, the current pricing system offered to foreign firms to install and operate wind farms is literally a licence to print money. But hey let’s get worked up about BJ having a pint during one of those ridiculous lockdowns instead of opening our eyes  🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️. 

[GarethM]

Aren't a lot of the wind turbines also owned by vattenfall ?. Which is effectively the Swedish government, which you can't buy shares in.

 

So guess they Vattenfall were the precursor to state nationalised EDF.

[devon TWiG]

4 hours ago, GarethM said:

Aren't a lot of the wind turbines also owned by vattenfall ?. Which is effectively the Swedish government, which you can't buy shares in.

 

So guess they Vattenfall were the precursor to state nationalised EDF.

perhaps this was partly / wholly to do with EU rules at the time , whereby contracts over a certain value were available by  tender  to any company in the EU ....

 

[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, devon TWiG said:

perhaps this was partly / wholly to do with EU rules at the time , whereby contracts over a certain value were available by  tender  to any company in the EU ....

 

Absolutely disgusting and totally exposes the lies that politicians both sides of the border and the green fools spout. It would create tens of thousands of jobs if someone at least had the balls and long term vision to put things in motion to ensure a minimum local content.

[Mesterh]

2 hours ago, devon TWiG said:

perhaps this was partly / wholly to do with EU rules at the time , whereby contracts over a certain value were available by  tender  to any company in the EU ....

 

I remember putting in a tender for some la work a long time ago. I asked at the interview if local firms had any advantage. The answer was a firm no. If a tree company in Germany could do the same work for less money and still show that they could meet all the requirements then it would go to them! Suffice to say a firm 300 miles away won the contract then farmed it out to local firms at a shitty rate. Some local lads took them up on the offer as they needed the work.

 

 

 

 

 

[JaySmith]

8 hours ago, Mesterh said:

I remember putting in a tender for some la work a long time ago. I asked at the interview if local firms had any advantage. The answer was a firm no. If a tree company in Germany could do the same work for less money and still show that they could meet all the requirements then it would go to them! Suffice to say a firm 300 miles away won the contract then farmed it out to local firms at a shitty rate. Some local lads took them up on the offer as they needed the work.

 

 

 

Unfortunately this is still very much still happening. Due to procurement rules it is often the cheapest price that wins, regardless of where they are from and whether or not they are ultimately the best contractor to undertake the works. Due to the nature of the contracts they are then allowed to sub the work out if they bite off more than they can chew which then looses the client even more control over the contract. But they get the work done for the cheapest price so it must be the best use of the money, surely?! No. 

 

 

[JaySmith]

Just now, JaySmith said:

 

Unfortunately this is still very much still happening. Due to procurement rules it is often the cheapest price that wins, regardless of where they are from and whether or not they are ultimately the best contractor to undertake the works. Due to the nature of the contracts they are then allowed to sub the work out if they bite off more than they can chew which then looses the client even more control over the contract. But they get the work done for the cheapest price so it must be the best use of the money, surely?! No. 

[Johnsond]

51 minutes ago, JaySmith said:

Unfortunately this is still very much still happening. Due to procurement rules it is often the cheapest price that wins, regardless of where they are from and whether or not they are ultimately the best contractor to undertake the works. Due to the nature of the contracts they are then allowed to sub the work out if they bite off more than they can chew which then looses the client even more control over the contract. But they get the work done for the cheapest price so it must be the best use of the money, surely?! No. 

Definitely not no 

In the case of the article about the sea green base units the fact is we are supporting thousands of jobs in China whilst at the same time ignoring the opportunity to rebuild an industry here on our own shores. Insanity as far as I’m concerned.