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[Steven P]

That's true, but... all politicians change their minds yearly, I wouldn't be surprised if they reinstate it next year as a 'isn't the government wonderful to you' gift though. I tend to only count for the coming year because I have no clue what they will change in the next budget.

 

 

(edit here: With inflation I guess you could say that fuel duty being frozen for the year, not being linked to inflation makes it a drop 'in real terms'... but would be grasping at straws to say that... though I have a vague memory of about 10 years ago a chancellor trying to sell us that line)

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[Johnsond]

49 minutes ago, Squaredy said:

This was a funny way of putting it.  What she actually has done is end the fuel duty freeze which has been in place for 16 years (as from next September).

But somehow she spun that as a freeze on fuel duty!

I was wondering how SP could read anything else into it apart from what you have just described. 

[Johnsond]

34 minutes ago, Steven P said:

That's true, but... all politicians change their minds yearly, I wouldn't be surprised if they reinstate it next year as a 'isn't the government wonderful to you' gift though. I tend to only count for the coming year because I have no clue what they will change in the next budget.

 

 

(edit here: With inflation I guess you could say that fuel duty being frozen for the year, not being linked to inflation makes it a drop 'in real terms'... but would be grasping at straws to say that... though I have a vague memory of about 10 years ago a chancellor trying to sell us that line)

OMG you used the fuuuuuuuucccckkkkiiiinnnggg edit function 😳😳😳😳😳

Your post is pure shite, you were wrong initially about the fuel freeze. 
Now get back to your spreadsheet you bone idle bugger. No wonder the public sector is a millstone around the next of taxpayers. 

[5thelement]

@Steve Bullman

Have you added the angry emoji especially for @Johnsond 😂

[BillQ]

11 hours ago, Johnsond said:

A state sponsored scheme to encourage citizens to inform on each other. 
The Stasi would most definitely approve. 

So tax fraud is OK?

[AHPP]

It's more than OK!

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[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, 5thelement said:

@Steve Bullman

Have you added the angry emoji especially for @Johnsond 😂

You’d be very surprised lad 🤔👍
There’s not much on here that is able to rile me up, possibly sick buggers like  Manco and SP when they stoop to bringing daughters into the argument. 

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[sime42]

On 21/11/2025 at 23:08, Squaredy said:

If I get time tomorrow I will list some of the times in the last 20 years or so the BBC has been found guilty of institutional bias.  Of course that will probably be the fault of Ofcom.  The BBC are totally balanced and objective.

 

 

Not bias as such, but an interesting twist on the theme. This is a bad sign of the times. It looks like the BBC have been bullied into self-censorship this time. The not so insidious death of free speech again.

An interesting programme btw. The Reith Lectures are always good. I'd urge you to have a listen. 

 

 

Historian Rutger Bregman criticises BBC for removing Donald Trump line from Radio 4's Reith Lecture

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Rutger Bregman says he is "genuinely dismayed" after a line about the US president was edited out.

 

 

 

[Squaredy]

34 minutes ago, sime42 said:

 

 

Not bias as such, but an interesting twist on the theme. This is a bad sign of the times. It looks like the BBC have been bullied into self-censorship this time. The not so insidious death of free speech again.

An interesting programme btw. The Reith Lectures are always good. I'd urge you to have a listen. 

 

 

Historian Rutger Bregman criticises BBC for removing Donald Trump line from Radio 4's Reith Lecture

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Rutger Bregman says he is "genuinely dismayed" after a line about the US president was edited out.

 

 

 

Thank you, I will listen.  Though I have heard from someone who attended the lecture and he hated it!  If it is just Trump bashing I have heard plenty of that from the BBC over the years.  Their presenters on the radio are all anti-Trump, even the many who I listen to on Times Radio (all ex BBC) are always highly partisan when it comes to Trump.
 

I guess if the BBC removed a line they must have realised it could be libellous.  In which case that is what they should do.  As long as they stick to reporting things accurately they have nothing to fear