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[5thelement]

19 minutes ago, Mike Hill said:

 

The 99% of Gaza that the IDF are not carrying out ground operations on.

 

Or the benevolent Arab neighbours?

Gaza is surrounded, iron wall on one side, Israeli Navy guarding the sea on the other, they are not allowed to leave, nothing in or out, huge population density for the size of the area.

Again, where are you going to safely evacuate too?
 

Edited 8 hours ago by 5thelement

[Steven P]

21 minutes ago, Mike Hill said:

 

The 99% of Gaza that the IDF are not carrying out ground operations on.

 

Or the benevolent Arab neighbours?

 

Benevolent Arab neighbours... sounds good except the borders are closed, have been for a long time. It was a very crowded piece of land before, and moving the population to a small corner makes the population even more concentrated .. there is pretty much nowhere for them to be evacuated to.

 

Though from your earlier comment - I'd agree hiding underneath hospitals and so on - in and among the civilians is not a decent thing to do for an army.

 

As for 99% of Gaza that the IDF are not carrying out operations in... today.... 90% of housing in Gaza is damaged or destroyed. They have carried out operations throughout the Gaza strip. Are you suggesting perhaps that Hamas should be encouraging its population to march from one end to the other and back regularly, perhaps pushing the hospital beds as they go?

 

No, no where for them to go, no escape for the population.

[Mike Hill]

90% my hairy bottom.

 

I doubt very much that 90% of the population is living under canvas.

[5thelement]

Not that I particularly want to watch the video again, but do any of you with knowledge of firearms think the bullet that hit his neck was a ricochet from his chest plate? 

[BillQ]

38 minutes ago, 5thelement said:

Not that I particularly want to watch the video again, but do any of you with knowledge of firearms think the bullet that hit his neck was a ricochet from his chest plate? 

Not seen it so just an assumption, it depends on the angle of the shot and that is believed to be from a rooftop so unlikely as well as whether he had a plate or soft vest? So unlikely in all respects unless it ricocheted in front, but again unlikely. 

[Mark Bolam]

That video is awful.

Poor bloke.

[flyingjoiner]

@5thelement

 

It looks like a direct shot with something in the realm of a .308/.30-06 with a hollow point bullet.

 

Bearing in mind these are very much capable of stopping a moose, and commonplace in hunting pretty much everything, they are going to, don't know a better way to put it, make a mess of a human.

[Mark Bolam]

We need to tone down the hatred on this thread.

We are Arbtalk.

We’re better than that.

[AHPP]

4 hours ago, Mark Bolam said:

That video is awful.

Poor bloke.

Horrible isn’t it. Nearly didn’t post it but if we (the royal we) are going to have big opinions on things, we should have to really confront the ugly side of them. We should stare it in the face, raw, and then decide whether we still think the same thing as much as we thought we thought it.