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[Steven P]

14 hours ago, Doug Tait said:

I do believe life should exist elsewhere in the universe. Likely a whole array of life, including life forms mankind couldn't even conceptualise let alone classify in our supremely narrow and limited "knowledge" of existence.

 

I reckon it would inconceivable for there not to be other life out there (screws up the religious types though with a belief of only life on this planet). Billions of stars, 50x more planets, of a billion years and yet only 1 planet is exactly right for life to form? Nah.

 

Problem is the billions of years part, suppose an advanced alien race developed, might have been a million years ago - long enough for them to develop, explore space, get wiped out well before we started making stone axes. Likewise we might be done for by the time the next local one develops. Then there is the billions of stars of trillions and trillions of miles of space, taking many many years to get here, probably not happening (Start of their mission - 'hey look there is a planet over there where we think in 100,000 years intelligent life will be developed... lets start a mission now and when we get there we can make contact')

 

Life is out there but not sure we are being visited by aliens. Orbs or drones?

[openspaceman]

59 minutes ago, Steven P said:

I reckon it would inconceivable for there not to be other life out there (screws up the religious types though with a belief of only life on this planet). Billions of stars, 50x more planets, of a billion years and yet only 1 planet is exactly right for life to form? Nah.

Why not? by the time you add in the period for earth to become habitable and life to evolve humans the odds get much longer. Given also that the earth will be too hot for most life within a billion years we're only a blip in time.

[Johnsond]

18 hours ago, Mesterh said:

It could be this one. TBH Im not sure. Its that you just whinge about it so often I thought you that you may have your own dedicated thread on the subject. 

 

 

Just a little update on the numbers today, that’s over 35000 illegals this year so far,  at according to government figures around £40k per head per year to keep here and process 🤷‍♂️👍do the maths. Based upon the UK average salary  contributing £8264 to the coffers of HMRC through tax and NI. I’ve sat and done the figure half a dozen times. The number of hard working tax payers whose entire contribution is being swallowed up is insane. I’ll let the left on here do the sums themselves incase I’m accused of Ist or ic type tendencies. 
35k X 40k ➗ £8264 ?? 
 

[sime42]

20 hours ago, Mesterh said:

It could be this one. TBH Im not sure. Its that you just whinge about it so often I thought you that you may have your own dedicated thread on the subject. 

 

 

You were right, it is this thread. Well, almost. It is about 50% anti immigration, 20% anti Starmer, 15% anti net-zero and 10% LinkedIn screen shots and 5% anything other forum members have the audacity to consider newsworthy or interesting.

 

 

 

 

[sime42]

UK 'doesn't have enough builders' for Labour's 1.5m homes

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Builders and developers say reforms are needed to recruit more tradespeople to build the homes being promised.

 

[tree-fancier123]

just use immigrant builders to build homes for yet more immigrants

[sime42]

That's one answer certainly. Another would be to get some of our own bloated benefit bums off their arses.

 

I'd argue that we don't even need 1.5m new houses though. Apparently we already have 1m vacant properties. We could just renovate and reuse those. Far more eco friendly than building from scratch and probably far better quality than crappy new builds as well.

 

Action on Empty Homes

WWW.ACTIONONEMPTYHOMES.ORG

 

 

[doobin]

11 hours ago, sime42 said:

That's one answer certainly. Another would be to get some of our own bloated benefit bums off their arses.

 

I'd argue that we don't even need 1.5m new houses though. Apparently we already have 1m vacant properties. We could just renovate and reuse those. Far more eco friendly than building from scratch and probably far better quality than crappy new builds as well.

 

Action on Empty Homes

WWW.ACTIONONEMPTYHOMES.ORG

 

 

1m wouldn’t even house the last couple of years new immigration. 
 

this country is ****************ed. 

[Johnsond]

13 hours ago, sime42 said:

You were right, it is this thread. Well, almost. It is about 50% anti immigration, 20% anti Starmer, 15% anti net-zero and 10% LinkedIn screen shots and 5% anything other forum members have the audacity to consider newsworthy or interesting.

 

 

 

 

42 when you have the current Border Security Minister Dame Angela Eagle admitting they have no idea how many undocumented illegal immigrants there are in the country or when they will ever be able to slow down the number of illegal crossings etc, You know you have a huge problem. 
I see you ignore the article on costs and the related figures in regards number of taxpayers to cover it etc. Mine is due as are millions of others by end of Jan 25, I’ll pay mine as I always do, mind you it’s not even enough to cover the costs of a single illegal immigrant crossing the channel. 
Yet you seem to see no issue with any of this insanity. Maybe take a look at the reality of the numbers  for the legal stuff you often quote too 

Edited December 15, 2024 by Johnsond

[Welshfred]

29 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

42 when you have the current Border Security Minister Dame Angela Eagle admitting they have no idea how many undocumented illegal immigrants there are in the country or when they will ever be able to slow down the number of illegal crossings etc, You know you have a huge problem. 
I see you ignore the article on costs and the related figures in regards number of taxpayers to cover it etc. Mine is due as are millions of others by end of Jan 25, I’ll pay mine as I always do, mind you it’s not even enough to cover the costs of a single illegal immigrant crossing the channel. 
Yet you seem to see no issue with any of this insanity. 

 You do realise the whole debacle over hotel expenses only arose because the Tories refused to process claims on the grounds it would be a pull factor for future migration? A political choice at odds with the country's best interests. 

Now the new lot are trying to get to grips with things you seem intent on blaming them for the inherited mess.

Using boats as a metaphor, the bigger they are the longer it takes to turn them around... What is it they say about patience?