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[Mark J]

6 minutes ago, billy_wizz said:

 You can legally breed as young as 12 as can be confirmed by a few people! 16 is the aged your considered sensible enough to judge if you want to sleep with someone or not!

You'll have to explain the first sentence as I don't understand it.

How sensible do you have to be to vote? 

[Steve Bullman]

29 minutes ago, Mark J said:

How come people are legally allowed to breed at 16, but aren't deemed mature enough to to vote at that age? 

 

I suppose the obvious answer is a 16 year old thinking they are grown up enough to have a baby is affecting a small amount of people compared to 16 years olds thinking they are grown up enough to make a rational decision that can affect a whole country 

[Mark J]

10 minutes ago, Steve Bullman said:

I suppose the obvious answer is a 16 year old thinking they are grown up enough to have a baby is affecting a small amount of people compared to 16 years olds thinking they are grown up enough to make a rational decision that can affect a whole country 

You can drive any car on the motorway at 17 but you're not able to vote for another year.. I realise that a line has to be drawn somewhere, but there should be some consistency.

Edited May 25, 2024 by Mark J

[Steve Bullman]

1 minute ago, Mark J said:

You can drive any car on the motorway at 17 but you're not able to vote for another year.. I realise that a line has to be drawn somewhere, but it should have some consistency.

You’re right. Let’s make it 25 then. Include marriage in that…no one below that age should succumb to those types of horrors 

[tree-fancier123]

No vote unless your great great great grandparents were born in UK

[Johnsond]

35 minutes ago, Mark J said:

I reckon that if 16 year olds were given the right to vote they'd vote Green as younger people tend to look to the future whereas older people tend to want to make their present more comfortable. They would have gone with Corbyn but that version of Labour is long gone.

I also reckon that the powers that be will stifle anything that might upset their position, so during this election and beyond, I expect a filthy online war full of targeted ads to the susceptible, and things will turn out exactly as they are supposed to. Cambridge Analytica are one of many.

Easy mark you will be branded a conspiracy theorist at this rate. 

[monkeybusiness]

I can’t see any reason to withhold the vote from people who can legally breed/smoke/drive - surely their say is relevant?

It might focus the minds of politicians to set out (and hopefully deliver) longer term manifestos, instead of only looking to the next election.
It is impossible to implement any radical (or even non-radical but sensible) policies because of the way politics works in this country, so we end up mired in bureaucratic nonsense with problems getting worse but nothing being done about it because of quangos, political correctness, and parliamentary one-upmanship. 
There are millions of 18+ people in this country who probably shouldn’t be allowed to leave the house on their own, never mind have a say in deciding how the rest of us are governed. We do need to accept their thoughts on who runs the country though, even if they only take take take and never pay taxes….

[Mesterh]

IMO it should be 18 before you can do all the things discussed above. There is a huge difference between the level of maturity of a 16 year old compare to that of an 18 year old. Thats in regards to marriage, sex driving etc, the working part is a bit different. Im a bit torn as I think 16 year olds should be able to go to work and earn some coin but I think that if you can work and pay tax at 16 then you should have vote on how those tax dollars get spent/spunked up the wall etc.

 

 

 

 

[Steven P]

1 hour ago, Johnsond said:

Wrong 

 

Sign up at 16, in a general election year, you sign up for 6? years. After 5 years (and 25 days)(max time between elections), at the next general election you could have been in active duty for 3 years and have had no say in the politics that sent you there.

[Johnsond]

11 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

Sign up at 16, in a general election year, you sign up for 6? years. After 5 years (and 25 days)(max time between elections), at the next general election you could have been in active duty for 3 years and have had no say in the politics that sent you there.

Then don’t join the armed forces 🤷‍♂️.

You mean on active service I take it ? 
I can assure you the first tour I did in NI as an 18-19 year old the last thing i gave a shit about was voting in any election. 
Just had a quick look at the stats for 16-17yr olds in the armed forces various figures between 1000-1700 🤔like Starmer really gives a toss. 

Edited May 25, 2024 by Johnsond