Making the news today....

[sime42]

Yep. I've only ever had to use one once, for a breakdown. It was very unpleasant as you feel highly exposed. And that was a conventional hard shoulder, with no live traffic behind either.

[Steven P]

Likewise, I wouldn't stop on a hard shoulder if you can avoid it. Done that once and was straight out the car and 'hiding' safely. Also cycled down a 70mph dual carriageway - all legal - would never do that again either! Scary places outside the metal safety of a car.

[Mark J]

21 hours ago, Johnsond said:

Good 👍

Although I presume it’s that “ right  wing extremism “ the media pump out relentlessly that you are actually meaning. 
Im looking for all those right wing terrorist arracks bombings, beheadings, stabbings etc etc in the UK Mark ??????? got any links or sources ?

Interesting to see the fact that even those media sources I’d see as left of centre are openly admitting its blatant two tier policing that was witnessed today. 

I'm not a fan of extremists, I'm not bothered which flag they shag.

Interesting to see how political affiliation influences our perception of things, perhaps it's down to the media we digest:
 

Which extremists do Britons see as threats in 2024? | YouGov

YOUGOV.CO.UK

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Islamic terrorism tops the list, although attitudes among Conservative and Labour voters differ significantly

 

Edited April 24, 2024 by Mark J

[pleasant]

1 hour ago, Mark J said:

I'm not a fan of extremists, I'm not bothered which flag they shag.

Interesting to see how political affiliation influences our perception of things, perhaps it's down to the media we digest:
 

Which extremists do Britons see as threats in 2024? | YouGov

YOUGOV.CO.UK

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Islamic terrorism tops the list, although attitudes among Conservative and Labour voters differ significantly

 

In the UK now, if you have any opinion that is some way different to the agenda set out by the MSM, then you are instantly labelled as 'far right' which instantly pigeon holes you into the same category as Tommy Robinson. the EDL and the National Front. They do this so you appear to the sheeple, that you are affiliated to those extreme organisations so you either shut up or you get shut up. If you dare suggest there are too many immigrants coming over in boat, you are now far right, if you suggest we have too many people in this country you are far right...it's all done so in the end you comply with how they think you 'should' be thinking.

Edited April 24, 2024 by pleasant

[Mark Bolam]

We have too many immigrants coming over by boat and there are too many people in this country now though.

[pleasant]

1 minute ago, Mark Bolam said:

We have too many immigrants coming over by boat and there are too many people in this country now though.

IF you have to go through several safe counties en route to the UK ,and then employ a gangster to smuggle you into a country and pay them an eye watering amount of money to do so, then by definition you are not poor, nor a genuine asylum seeker. There are channels in place for genuine asylum seekers to the UK, none of which include smuggling you into the UK at vast cost to the underworld. Anyone who says the majority are genuine asylum seekers are gullible fools. Genuine asylum seekers already have a legal route at little cost.

[Mark J]

10 minutes ago, pleasant said:

In the UK now, if you have any opinion that is some way different to the agenda set out by the MSM, then you are instantly labelled as 'far right' which instantly pigeon holes you into the same category as Tommy Robinson. the EDL and the National Front. They do this so you appear to the sheeple, that you are affiliated to those extreme organisations so you either shut up or you get shut up. If you dare suggest there are too many immigrants coming over in boat, you are now far right, if you suggest we have too many people in this country you are far right...it's all done so in the end you comply with how they think you 'should' be thinking.

I suppose that depends which news (MSM) you read. Try bigging up Corbyn on a Faily Mail article, you'll find the same vilification there.

People on here tried to pigeon hole me as some kind of Citizen Smith character due to their perception of my views. Bless them. 

I agree there are too many people coming over here in boats.

[Mark J]

2 minutes ago, pleasant said:

IF you have to go through several safe counties en route to the UK ,and then employ a gangster to smuggle you into a country and pay them an eye watering amount of money to do so, then by definition you are not poor, nor a genuine asylum seeker. There are channels in place for genuine asylum seekers to the UK, none of which include smuggling you into the UK at vast cost to the underworld. Anyone who says the majority are genuine asylum seekers are gullible fools. Genuine asylum seekers already have a legal route at little cost.

We should have taken up the French on their offer of a visa processing facility in France. 

[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, Mark J said:

I'm not a fan of extremists, I'm not bothered which flag they shag.

Interesting to see how political affiliation influences our perception of things, perhaps it's down to the media we digest:
 

Which extremists do Britons see as threats in 2024? | YouGov

YOUGOV.CO.UK

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Islamic terrorism tops the list, although attitudes among Conservative and Labour voters differ significantly

 

I’ll do the maths Mark

Got bugger all to do with political affiliations bud. 

[Mark J]

8 minutes ago, Mark Bolam said:

We have too many immigrants coming over by boat and there are too many people in this country now though.

I don't think there are too many people, I think that the infrastructure could do with upgrading. I was down in Conyer the other week and I can see why you'd think there were too many people, Kent roads are rammed. 

I agree about the boats.