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[Johnsond]

20 minutes ago, 5thelement said:

The same incompetent government that led us through Covid are the same government overseeing and implementing Brexit, some folk are quickly becoming the Skyhucks of the Brexit world.

Now there’s a true child vaccinating believers name I ain’t heard for a while. 
Define government incompetence during covid especially now we can see the measures implemented have had horrendous long term damaging Health, educational, financial, mental health issues etc etc without admitting those from other parties who wanted harsher longer more comprehensive restrictions etc etc would indeed have made matters even worse. 

[trigger_andy]

4 minutes ago, Big J said:

 

Norway has far closer ties to the EU than the UK does, or is seeking to have.

But not in the EU, and the mood of the people seems to indicate they would like less not more ties. Switzerland's inflation is also far below that of many EU members. Close ties yes, but still a distinct separation and like Norway they prosper very well being out of the EU. 

 

I also remember very well that when the terms of Brexit where announced it was reported that it ruffled many a feather within Norwegian Politics due to the favorable conditions the UK got without the ties Norway has to endure.  

 

So two European Countries that are not in the EU that have far lower rates of inflation and are prospering very well being outside of the EU. Something that the Remoaners seem to ignore or are completely oblivious to. 

 

Being in the EU is not a prerequisite to prosperity within Europe. 

[5thelement]

2 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Now there’s a true child vaccinating believers name I ain’t heard for a while. 
Define government incompetence during covid especially now we can see the measures implemented have had horrendous long term damaging Health, educational, financial, mental health issues etc etc without admitting those from other parties who wanted harsher longer more comprehensive restrictions etc etc would indeed have made matters even worse. 

But there has only been one party in charge of Covid and Brexit, what other parties have suggested/would have done us irrelevant, they where not in charge of the decision making then or now.

[dan blocker]

Whilst recognising that everyone’s entitled to an opinion it’s interesting to see that nearly all the posts for the last couple of hours over the merets of brexit have been in the main from forum members currently residing abroad. Thanks for you concern for  “the old country”. Not sure where Scotland wants to be placed🤔.As far as I’m concerned( as an Englishman still living in England) we’re still suffering from Brexit and will do for years to come for a no of reasons? Firstly Europe are still trying to punish us for having the audacity to leave. They are putting every barrier that can to try and stop us being successful? Knowing full well that if we are then there are other countries that could well follow. Almost as soon as the Brexit paperwork was done we entered a period of a perfect storm with Covid, Ukraine and the economy crashing from a no of reasons. Every country in Europe are having problems and there’s actually very little difference in inflation, interest rates unemployment rates etc between countries such as Germany, France, Italy, Greece, Sweden, others and UK. We chose Brexit and need to stick with it after all Labour are coming over the hill to rescue us from doom 😳.

[dan blocker]

1 hour ago, Big J said:

 

It's 9.3% here in Sweden, down from 9.7% the previous month. 

 

The difference is that the cost of living crisis isn't really talked about, with the notable exception of electricity. I think that people aren't as close to the bread line here. Maybe it's better hidden though. Who knows!

9.3% or 9.7%  makes very little difference on the price of fish. What is being talked about is the anti Immigration movement that’s building in Sweden. There’s about 15% of the population on the poverty line. Wait till Sweden as to pay the huge membership fee to join NATO and catch up with some sort of contribution to the party? No matter what picture you paint of Sweden Big J things are far from perfect🤔

[dan blocker]

1 hour ago, 5thelement said:

No one’s saying Covid hasn’t been an economic disaster, but Brexit has influenced it as well. The same Government who led us into Brexit is the same lying scum that led us into Covid, or have you forgotten that?

Didn’t think it was the UK government who led us into Covid? I always thought it was the Chinese🤔. Funny how they’ve coming out of it as one of the current leading economy’s?

[dan blocker]

12 minutes ago, 5thelement said:

But there has only been one party in charge of Covid and Brexit, what other parties have suggested/would have done us irrelevant, they where not in charge of the decision making then or now.

Buy and large the other parties generally supported the Government on the response to Covid. Labour had no ideas of their own only splinters in their arse from sitting on the fence.

[Johnsond]

43 minutes ago, 5thelement said:

But there has only been one party in charge of Covid and Brexit, what other parties have suggested/would have done us irrelevant, they where not in charge of the decision making then or now.

It’s not only what they would have done it’s what they did do ie supported all measures and always demanded more 🤷‍♂️That chunk of acknowledgment seems to be sticking in your throat. 

[GarethM]

Sush, look around the eyes not at the eyes.

The last two years were a dream, everyone was on vacation, German tour bus.

[eggsarascal]

1 hour ago, dan blocker said:

after all Labour are coming over the hill to rescue us from doom 😳.

I’m taking that with a barrow full of salt, the Labour supporters I speak to, many of who lent their vote to Boris say they will be moving back over, not because they think Labour will do any better, but they believe it’s time for change.