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[Big J]

3 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

Perhaps the lure of cheap foreign labour should never have been allowed to be danged in front of them? Businesses will always look at the bottom line as opposed to following a moral compass. Do you think companies would follow the Minimum wage laws if they where removed? Of course not. Where we not to have have the EU thrust upon on Id suspect we'd not be in the situation we are now. 

 

25% increases in the catering industry is a start, as is seeing trades commanding £250-£300 a day wages. I'll hazard a guess that the buying power of these wages will be akin to what a tradie was on, and what he could buy on his wages before the mass influx of cheap labour, ie a home going back to being 3 x their yearly wage. 

 

Inflation is skyrocketing on a global scale, not just in the UK. 

 

Time to invest in Gold again

 

2 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

25% of 9 quid an hour is no great shakes. It had to happen mind.

 

Wages certainly needed to increase, but it won't be long until you're in a Norway type situation with a pint costing £12.

 

It wasn't just the ability to pay less that attracted employers to foreign labour, it's the fact that in general they work better and harder. There are a lot of jobs that Brits just can't be arsed to do anymore. Fruit picking, meat processing, catering and hospitality, even care work. 

[topchippyles]

4 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

25% of 9 quid an hour is no great shakes. It had to happen mind.

Cost of living will just go up and offset any wage increase for the low paid

[devon TWiG]

1 minute ago, trigger_andy said:

Exactly, its not going to encourage anyone. 

 

The reality is they need to look at what £9 an hour buys someone from Latvia, or Poland and offer the British the same. Im quite sure we'll see an end to folk here being called 'lazy brits' 

I think you may be overlooking the Benefits system for EMPLOYED people in this country  ..Working family tax credits , Child allowance etc etc  all helps  make a minimum  wage comfortably livable !  

[eggsarascal]

1 minute ago, Big J said:

 

 

Wages certainly needed to increase, but it won't be long until you're in a Norway type situation with a pint costing £12.

 

It wasn't just the ability to pay less that attracted employers to foreign labour, it's the fact that in general they work better and harder. There are a lot of jobs that Brits just can't be arsed to do anymore. Fruit picking, meat processing, catering and hospitality, even care work. 

I'm afraid not, people can be arsed, if other people are willing to pay for it. I know of one bloke who unblokes drains for a living, he gets paid well for it mind.

[trigger_andy]

Just now, Big J said:

Wages certainly needed to increase, but it won't be long until you're in a Norway type situation with a pint costing £12.

Pints might be £12 a pop here but no one drinks them.  They get hammered on homebrew, moonshine and 'black' booze then heard into town for an hour, have a drink or two then head back for an after party. There is no 'local' mentality here. 

 

3 minutes ago, Big J said:

It wasn't just the ability to pay less that attracted employers to foreign labour, it's the fact that in general they work better and harder.

Everyone works better and harder when you've gone from earning pennies to a kings ransom over night 

 

4 minutes ago, Big J said:

There are a lot of jobs that Brits just can't be arsed to do anymore.

Not for £9 an hour they cant.  

 

4 minutes ago, Big J said:

Fruit picking, meat processing, catering and hospitality, even care work. 

Not while there is an abundance of benefits that payout almost the same. The whole system is an utter mess. 

[eggsarascal]

4 minutes ago, topchippyles said:

Cost of living will just go up and offset any wage increase for the low paid

That's it, keep everyone down.

[trigger_andy]

3 minutes ago, devon TWiG said:

I think you may be overlooking the Benefits system for EMPLOYED people in this country  ..Working family tax credits , Child allowance etc etc  all helps  make a minimum  wage comfortably livable !  

Well that was something I was gonna comment on as well. Its basically communism with extra steps added. 

[trigger_andy]

2 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

I'm afraid not, people can be arsed, if other people are willing to pay for it. I know of one bloke who unblokes drains for a living, he gets paid well for it mind.

And they earn every penny! Im hard pressed to rod my own drains let alone anyone else.  

[topchippyles]

8 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

I'm afraid not, people can be arsed, if other people are willing to pay for it. I know of one bloke who unblokes drains for a living, he gets paid well for it mind.

Talking shite again 😆

[devon TWiG]

Is everyone in Europe better off doing the basic jobs ??  some may pay higher but taxes are higher and I have been to plenty of places in Europe that has shitty housing and more than it's fair share of dodgy layabouts !!  the ones that have come here from Poland for example are the younger more dynamic individuals on the whole and are not typically representative of their countrymen , plenty of Brits are hard working and have gone to Europe and beyond because of their skills and determination , I am sure all the Norwegians do not think  all the jocks are like Trigger 🤣