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1 hour ago, Mark J said:

@Richard 1234   @Johnsond

Go on  then, defend them:
 

December 31st China alerts WHO to new virus.

January 23rd Study reveals a third of China’s patients require intensive care.

January 24th Boris Johnson misses first Cobra meeting.

January 29th Boris Johnson misses second Cobra meeting.

January 31st The NHS declares first ever ‘Level 4 critical incident’ Meanwhile, the government declines to join European scheme to source PPE.

February 5th Boris Johnson misses third Cobra meeting.

February 12th Boris Johnson misses fourth Cobra meeting. Exeter University published study warning Coronavirus could infect 45 million people in the UK if left unchallenged.

February 13th Boris Johnson misses conference call with European leaders.

February 14th Boris Johnson goes away on holiday. Aides are told keeps Johnson’s briefing notes short or he will not read them.

February 18th Johnson misses fifth cobra meeting.

February 26th Boris Johnson announces ‘Herd Immunity’ strategy, announcing some people will lose loved ones. Government document is leaked, predicting half a million Brits could die in ‘worse case scenario’

February 29th Boris Johnson retreats to his country manor. NHS warns of ‘PPE shortage nightmare’ Stockpiles have dwindled or expired after years of austerity cuts.

March 2nd Boris Johnson attends his first Cobra meeting, declining another opportunity to join European PPE scheme. Government’s own scientists say over half a million Brit’s could die if virus left unrestrained. Johnson tells country “We are very, very well prepared.”

March 3rd Scientists urge Government to advise public not to shake hands. Boris Johnson brags about shaking hands of Coronavirus patients.

March 4th Government stops providing daily updates on virus following a 70% spike in UK cases. They will later U-turn on this amid accusations they are withholding vital information.

March 5th Boris Johnson tells public to ‘wash their hands and business as usual’

March 7th Boris Johnson joins 82,000 people at Six Nations match.

March 9th After Ireland cancels St Patrick’s day parades, the government says there’s “No Rationale” for cancelling sporting events.

March 10th - 13th Cheltenham takes place, more than a quarter of a million people attend.

March 11th 3,000 Atletico Madrid fans fly to Liverpool.

March 12th Boris Johnson states banning events such as Cheltenham will have little effect. The Imperial College study finds the government’s plan is projected to kill half a million people.

March 13th The FA suspends the Premier League, citing an absence of Government guidance. Britain is invited to join European scheme for joint purchase of ventilators, and refuses. Boris Johnson lifts restrictions of those arriving from Coronavirus hot spots.

March 14th Government is still allowing mass gatherings, as Stereophonics play to 5,000 people in Cardiff.

March 16th Boris Johnson asks Britons not to go to pubs, but allows them to stay open. During a conference call, Johnson jokes that push to build new ventilators should be called ‘Operation Last Gasp’

March 19th Hospital patients with Coronavirus are returned to care homes in a bid to free up hospital space. What follows is a boom of virus cases in care homes.

March 20th The Government states that PPE shortage crisis is “Completely resolved” Less than two weeks later, the British Medical Association reports an acute shortage in PPE.

March 23rd UK goes into lockdown.

March 26th Boris Johnson is accused of putting ‘Brexit over Breathing’ by not joining EU ventilator scheme. The government then state they had not joined the scheme because they had ‘missed the email’

April 1st The Evening Standard publishes that just 0.17% of NHS staff have been tested for the virus.

April 3rd The UK death toll overtakes China.

April 5th 17.5 million Antibody tests, ordered by the government and described by Boris Johnson as a ‘game changer’ are found to be a failure.

April 7th Boris Johnson is moved to intensive care with Coronavirus.

April 16th Flights bring 15,000 people a day into the UK - without virus testing.

April 17th Health Secretary Matt Hancock says “I would love to be able to wave a magic wand and have PPE fall from the sky.” The UK has now missed four opportunities to join the EU’s PPE scheme.

April 21st The Government fails to reach its target of face masks for the NHS, as it is revealed manufactures offers of help were met with silence. Instead millions of pieces of PPE are being shipped from the UK to Europe.

April 23rd - 24th Government announces testing kits for 10 million key workers. Orders run out within minutes as only 5,000 are made available.

April 25th UK death toll from Coronavirus overtakes that of The Blitz.

April 30th Boris Johnson announces the UK has succeeded in avoiding a tragedy that had engulfed other parts of the world - At this point, The UK has the 3rd highest death toll in the world.

May 1st The Government announces it has reached its target of 100,000 tests - They haven’t conducted the tests, but posted the testing kits.

May 5th The UK death toll becomes the highest in Europe.

May 6th Boris Johnson announces the UK could start to lift lockdown restrictions by next week.

There is no defending that. 

[Johnsond]

2 hours ago, Mark J said:

@Richard 1234   @Johnsond

Go on  then, defend them:

I copied this list from a facebook post
 

December 31st China alerts WHO to new virus.

January 23rd Study reveals a third of China’s patients require intensive care.

January 24th Boris Johnson misses first Cobra meeting.

January 29th Boris Johnson misses second Cobra meeting.

January 31st The NHS declares first ever ‘Level 4 critical incident’ Meanwhile, the government declines to join European scheme to source PPE.

February 5th Boris Johnson misses third Cobra meeting.

February 12th Boris Johnson misses fourth Cobra meeting. Exeter University published study warning Coronavirus could infect 45 million people in the UK if left unchallenged.

February 13th Boris Johnson misses conference call with European leaders.

February 14th Boris Johnson goes away on holiday. Aides are told keeps Johnson’s briefing notes short or he will not read them.

February 18th Johnson misses fifth cobra meeting.

February 26th Boris Johnson announces ‘Herd Immunity’ strategy, announcing some people will lose loved ones. Government document is leaked, predicting half a million Brits could die in ‘worse case scenario’

February 29th Boris Johnson retreats to his country manor. NHS warns of ‘PPE shortage nightmare’ Stockpiles have dwindled or expired after years of austerity cuts.

March 2nd Boris Johnson attends his first Cobra meeting, declining another opportunity to join European PPE scheme. Government’s own scientists say over half a million Brit’s could die if virus left unrestrained. Johnson tells country “We are very, very well prepared.”

March 3rd Scientists urge Government to advise public not to shake hands. Boris Johnson brags about shaking hands of Coronavirus patients.

March 4th Government stops providing daily updates on virus following a 70% spike in UK cases. They will later U-turn on this amid accusations they are withholding vital information.

March 5th Boris Johnson tells public to ‘wash their hands and business as usual’

March 7th Boris Johnson joins 82,000 people at Six Nations match.

March 9th After Ireland cancels St Patrick’s day parades, the government says there’s “No Rationale” for cancelling sporting events.

March 10th - 13th Cheltenham takes place, more than a quarter of a million people attend.

March 11th 3,000 Atletico Madrid fans fly to Liverpool.

March 12th Boris Johnson states banning events such as Cheltenham will have little effect. The Imperial College study finds the government’s plan is projected to kill half a million people.

March 13th The FA suspends the Premier League, citing an absence of Government guidance. Britain is invited to join European scheme for joint purchase of ventilators, and refuses. Boris Johnson lifts restrictions of those arriving from Coronavirus hot spots.

March 14th Government is still allowing mass gatherings, as Stereophonics play to 5,000 people in Cardiff.

March 16th Boris Johnson asks Britons not to go to pubs, but allows them to stay open. During a conference call, Johnson jokes that push to build new ventilators should be called ‘Operation Last Gasp’

March 19th Hospital patients with Coronavirus are returned to care homes in a bid to free up hospital space. What follows is a boom of virus cases in care homes.

March 20th The Government states that PPE shortage crisis is “Completely resolved” Less than two weeks later, the British Medical Association reports an acute shortage in PPE.

March 23rd UK goes into lockdown.

March 26th Boris Johnson is accused of putting ‘Brexit over Breathing’ by not joining EU ventilator scheme. The government then state they had not joined the scheme because they had ‘missed the email’

April 1st The Evening Standard publishes that just 0.17% of NHS staff have been tested for the virus.

April 3rd The UK death toll overtakes China.

April 5th 17.5 million Antibody tests, ordered by the government and described by Boris Johnson as a ‘game changer’ are found to be a failure.

April 7th Boris Johnson is moved to intensive care with Coronavirus.

April 16th Flights bring 15,000 people a day into the UK - without virus testing.

April 17th Health Secretary Matt Hancock says “I would love to be able to wave a magic wand and have PPE fall from the sky.” The UK has now missed four opportunities to join the EU’s PPE scheme.

April 21st The Government fails to reach its target of face masks for the NHS, as it is revealed manufactures offers of help were met with silence. Instead millions of pieces of PPE are being shipped from the UK to Europe.

April 23rd - 24th Government announces testing kits for 10 million key workers. Orders run out within minutes as only 5,000 are made available.

April 25th UK death toll from Coronavirus overtakes that of The Blitz.

April 30th Boris Johnson announces the UK has succeeded in avoiding a tragedy that had engulfed other parts of the world - At this point, The UK has the 3rd highest death toll in the world.

May 1st The Government announces it has reached its target of 100,000 tests - They haven’t conducted the tests, but posted the testing kits.

May 5th The UK death toll becomes the highest in Europe.

May 6th Boris Johnson announces the UK could start to lift lockdown restrictions by next week.

If it’s on Facebook it must be true. 
Don’t panic Mark ok ?. I’d have been impressed if you wrote it yourself mind. 
Personally  I hope it works out for England then Sturgeon will have no choice to follow suit. 

[Mark J]

13 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

If it’s on Facebook it must be true. 
Don’t panic Mark ok ?. I’d have been impressed if you wrote it yourself mind. 
Personally  I hope it works out for England then Sturgeon will have no choice to follow suit. 

All the points are facts.
That's no defence.
You'd be lousy brief.

[Johnsond]

1 minute ago, Mark J said:

All the points are facts.
That's no defence.
You'd be lousy brief.

Ok just as well I’m not in the legal profession then eh. Stop panicking and whining eh ?. 

 

 

 

[Mark J]

No panic here.

[Johnsond]

3 minutes ago, Mark J said:

All the points are facts.
That's no defence.
You'd be lousy brief.

If there’s no defence why did you ask for one then, don’t worry talking about defence your new labour god Starmer will happily defend the indefensible eh 

[Mark J]

Just now, Johnsond said:

If there’s no defence why did you ask for one then, don’t worry talking about defence your new labour god Starmer will happily defend the indefensible eh 

I think he's a prick as it happens.

[Mark J]

They must have really messed it up if these two are having a go:

 

[Johnsond]

58 minutes ago, Mark J said:

They must have really messed it up if these two are having a go:

 

Well Mark I guess if I was on the wages they are I’d be happy with the so called lockdown too. Mainstream and social hysterical media have gone to town on this as soon as they got the chance. As for phill well his confusion as to what he wanted after all these years is well known now ?‍♂️. You can not hide away
Thought I’d copy this in from a pal of mine, he’s a very pragmatic guy with a very good sense of community etc, in no way a selfish or money orientated individual.   
 

My latest rant on Facebook

Sunday Morning Hand Grenade! I know my opinion won’t be welcomed by many.  

I’ve read many articles on the Coronavirus and have read many people’s comments on social media. 

The coronavirus should be taken seriously and everyone should take precautions to prevent contracting and spreading the virus. Yes, people have died and this reinforces the point about taking this virus seriously. We all have a duty to be extra vigilant and not to get too complacent. However, I do not think this virus warrants shutting down our economy. The measures have been an overreaction and now it’s going to change our way of lives forever. 

I don’t think people have a grasp of the economic disaster awaiting us around the corner. People are enjoying being furloughed from their work, I must admit I’m making the most of being furloughed by spending quality time with my daughter and catching up with DIY jobs around the house which is great. This lockdown has made me realise just how much I work and has highlighted the little time I actually spend in my home. It’s been refreshing but some people do not realise the consequences of this Pandemic. Employers now realise that they can function with a skeleton workforce, they no longer need these oversized offices as their employees can be as productive working from home as they can be at the office. This in the longer term will hit the support networks for these offices such as catering services and cleaners etc, all the local coffee shops and food outlets etc in proximity to large office blocks will suffer. Some small businesses might find it difficult to restart and for some the financial pressures will be overbearing to the point it’s not worthwhile to continue. The unemployment figures are going to rise as a consequence to this lockdown. 

Figures from America show when Donald Trump came to power there were 9million Americans unemployed. Within four years Donald Trump reduced unemployment down to 3 million. Unfortunately for him the latest figures show between 26 to 33 million Americans have filed for unemployment ?. 

I see many people on my Facebook have criticised Sweden’s approach to the virus. So I’ve looked into the stats out of interest. 

Population 10 million of which 7.5 million people live in urban environments. 
To date they have had 3,220 deaths because of COVID-19. All deaths are bad and hence why we all need to be vigilant. Anyways the point is that Sweden has not had a lockdown but they have taken precautions and have cracked on as normal. The result is their economy is still buoyant and people are still employed. 

Furlough is great but the reality is there is nothing such as free money. One day somebody is going to have to pay it all back and yes that’s going to be the U.K. tax payer.  The sad thing is some people have a false sense of security when the reality is for some they may not have a job to go back to after the lockdown measures have been lifted and the government stop furlough payments. The banks will not suspend your mortgages and loan Payments and will demand that you start your monthly repayments again. How many people will be worse off because of the lockdown? What will the ratio be when comparing unemployment to deaths within the country after the lockdown measures have been lifted. 

Another thing, too many people are quick to judge. Nobody knows what others are doing. In my household if I or the kids leave and enter the house we wash our hands as a precaution even if we have not touched anything. At the petrol station we wear gloves and dispose of them after use. In the shops we will not touch our faces, we use hand sanitiser before entering and on leaving the shop. On our return to the house we wash our hands, unpack the shopping, wipe down the shopping, dispose of the shopping bags before washing our hands again to the point my hands are all cracked and are constantly bleeding. Some say this might be an overreaction but it’s better to be safe than sorry. If my neighbours stop to speak to me whilst I am in the garden or whilst walking my dog I am not fearful of contracting the virus, I’ve researched enough to understand that speaking to somebody in proximity is safe enough unless they are showing signs of a fever, coughing and spluttering as they speak. 

It’s time that we move on with extra measures in place to keep our most vulnerable safe. However, common sense and statistics would suggest that basic hygiene and an alertness to the potential danger with extra precautions taking into consideration should be enough for us all to return to normal and move forward. 

The death toll numbers in the UK can best be described as subjective as if somebody dies they are recorded as suspected COVID-19 without having a test to prove if they did or didn’t have the virus. If in Germany somebody has COVID-19 and dies of a heart attack, on the death certificate the cause of death is recorded as a heart attack. 

How many people are going to die of cancer because of cancelled operations and scans etc. That’s the brutal reality to this lockdown or from depression once people find themselves with empty pockets with no job and are faced with having their family home repossessed? It’s worthwhile to consider all these facts before criticising this post. 

The welfare state helps so many in their hour of need but can it survive when there is less people paying into it? As said earlier there is nothing such as free money in life. 

Anyone who understands inflation, not that I claim to know everything on economics because I don’t and I only know what I’ve read and researched. Think about this, the global stock market should of crashed and burned by now but world governments are pumping silly amounts of cash into the stock markets to keep everything buoyant and to prevent them from crashing. All this artificial money which never existed before is now in circulation which in time will devalue currencies around the world and as a result products and services will become more expensive. 

Before supporting this lockdown you need to consider everything and if after researching you still believe the lockdown needs to continue then that’s your opinion and you are entitled to it and I respect that. Nobody should make you feel bad because you differ in opinion.

Edited May 11, 2020 by Johnsond

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

22 hours ago, Mark J said:

They’re flying off the shelf now!
 

Maybe there’s a second career for Boris in the T shirt printing game once this clusterduck is all over?