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[eggsarascal]

2 minutes ago, Mull said:

Don’t talk shite Mark, how’s anyone supposed to argue with that?

You really can be short sighted at times.

 

Some of them COULD be Islamist terrorist. Let's ban the lot of them.

 

Don't expect the queues at A&E to degrees any time soon, mind....

[Mull]

I can argue with it.

If you’re trying to surprise me tvi, you failed.

[the village idiot]

Just now, Mull said:

 

If you’re trying to surprise me tvi, you failed.

 

Onetooth beat me to it Mull.

[matelot]

2 minutes ago, onetruth said:

Depends on the criteria.  If you're unskilled and uneducated, but likely to be murdered by the state because they think you look like you might be a wrong-un, that points system might not seem all that fair.  It's easy to design systems if you aren't desperate to escape.

You mean like the parents of the Manchester bomber? Gadaffi was fairly brutal in tracking down extremists and sending them to prison. Some of them escaped to Britain to claim asylum.... 

 

Taking in asylum seekers sounds an awesome idea until you realise we are giving asylum to extremists...

[Mull]

Depends on the criteria.  If you're unskilled and uneducated, but likely to be murdered by the state because they think you look like a wrong-un, that points system might not seem all that fair.  It's easy to design systems if you aren't desperate to escape.

So we we become the only country to accept every desperate human in the world. Ok then, that sounds fine.

[onetruth]

1 minute ago, Mull said:

So we we become the only country to accept every desperate human in the world. Ok then, that sounds fine.

Sounds like a terrible idea, are you seriously suggesting it?

[Mull]

Sounds like a terrible idea, are you seriously suggesting it?

You know I’m not!

[the village idiot]

6 minutes ago, Mull said:

You know I’m not!

Then don't bloomin' say it Mull.

[onetruth]

16 minutes ago, matelot said:

You mean like the parents of the Manchester bomber? Gadaffi was fairly brutal in tracking down extremists and sending them to prison. Some of them escaped to Britain to claim asylum.... 

 

Taking in asylum seekers sounds an awesome idea until you realise we are giving asylum to extremists...

Don't know about the people you refer to, but you are quite right - accepting large numbers of immigrants (economic or refugee) will mean some criminally minded or sociopathic people will get in among them; such people can be found in every population group.  The question is: would you prefer to ban them all or accept the inevitable problems that come with compassion?  This isn't an easy question and everyone will draw a line somewhere.  But societies that are intolerant or fearful of outsiders tend also to be intolerant to descent against the establishment by their own people, too.  Balance the freedom:safety thing how you see fit.

[the village idiot]

16 minutes ago, matelot said:

You mean like the parents of the Manchester bomber? Gadaffi was fairly brutal in tracking down extremists and sending them to prison. Some of them escaped to Britain to claim asylum.... 

 

Taking in asylum seekers sounds an awesome idea until you realise we are giving asylum to extremists...

We need to develop better screening methods, and nobody is saying let all asylum seekers in. It is important to remember that the vast majority of desperate people are trying to get away from extremists themselves.