Petition to get Nigel Farage onto the EU Referendum Debate

[Ian C]

Pint pot wasn't it ?

 

Sure was.

[wrsni]

Farage may be a prick but he's a strong willed and determined prick who sticks to his principles.

 

If he's strong willed, determined, and sticks to his principles, might that not point to the fact that he's actually NOT a prick?

 

Those seem like fairly worthy (and increasingly rare!) attributes to me.

[Ian C]

If he's strong willed, determined, and sticks to his principles, might that not point to the fact that he's actually NOT a prick?

 

Those seem like fairly worthy (and increasingly rare!) attributes to me.

 

I would agree most if em lie like dormant sphylys!

[eggsarascal]

Absolutly Excellent Post above.

 

And, sorry Eggs, but there ARE staffing "issues".

Cause by uncaring unfit bloodyminded staff who "play the system"

Honest

Anyway, that Aside, "£$%^&* barstewart Consultants (and some still not dry behind the ears) who insist on the right to work Private using NHS facilities

Fornicate Right-Off

and

If you are going to work for the NHS as a Consultant, or indeed a Surgeon, you will work a shift pattern covering 24/7 thus maximizing use of very expensive facilities and operating theaters 24/7.

Less 3 day weekends and 10:00 starts.

And Reception or nursing staff should be trained, equipped and expected to wipe the (copious) blood off the glass at the reception desk.

witnessed with my own eyes, up close like.

It was there for hours and hours "not our job" being the response when I finally commented

like it was still there when I finally booked out of Causalty, untreated, and stitched myself up at home.

Ps

A deep puncture wound from a rusty re-bar, in the bicep, probably stonking with Tetnus bacteria too.

 

No.

 

Do you work a three shift pattern, or is that for the great unwashed? what with working for the council and all that. Read as bone idle.

 

Do you, not the crew you supervise, (paid by the tax payer) work Saturday and Sunday's on single rate money?.... I doubt it.

 

Ain't you a big boy!....stitching ya self up...... I ask ya.

[difflock]

Eggs,

I cover Cemetery bookings 24/7, have done this few years and will do for a while yet, without stand-by payment or rancour.

Though over the Easter stand-down I did have to go in and therefore claimed my 2 hrs call-out.

byw.

I do not expect staff to work shifts or weekends without some commensurate enhancement.

Though triple pay for the possible 12 days Public Holiday a year is perhaps questionable, on top of another 28 days paid leave.

And still some whinge!

We might, very soon be put on 7 day rolling shifts, covering from 0800 to 2000 min especially over the summer months.

I wont particularly like it but, tough, its a job.

I may also have to switch to another office 25 miles away, and I currently work 3.5 miles from home.

I came off a small farm many years ago and still vaguely remember what a days work was, getting wet, and the hard earned value of a pound.

Unlike others I work with at various levels who think the sole purpose of the Council is to pay their Salary, for working when it suits them.

However, I kinda understand, as local Govt employees, we are paid to provide a Service.

So yes, I will be judgmental.

Simples.

marcus

Edited May 5, 2016 by difflock

[Mull]

If he's strong willed, determined, and sticks to his principles, might that not point to the fact that he's actually NOT a prick?

 

 

 

Those seem like fairly worthy (and increasingly rare!) attributes to me.

 

Of course, it would depend on what kind of principles he had surely?

 

I would agree most if em lie like dormant sphylys!

 

 

Lol, "dormant syphilis"

Cracker!!

[jomoco]

I hope my kindred Scott's Irish n English cousins are curious about the latest Panama Papers developments, as I am?

 

I can see why Brexit's gaining popularity in the UK when stuff like this comes to light.

 

https://theintercept.com/2016/05/06/panama-papers-source-wants-whistleblower-immunity-aid-law-enforcement/?comments=1#comments

 

Cheerio!

 

Jomoco

[flatyre]

There are about 8 million foreigners living in the UK. I would say that’s quite a lot…

 

50% of Muslim men are unemployed. 75% of Muslim women are unemployed…..

 

Migrants cost the UK taxpayer £120 billion between 1995 and 2011….

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign-born_population_of_the_United_Kingdom

 

Britain's coping classes at breaking point - Telegraph

 

Immigration from outside Europe 'cost £120 billion' - Telegraph

 

there are many conflicting figures out there, who knows which set are closest to the truth, certainly not the governments, or any of the pro tory pro labour tabloids, obviously different parts of the country have varying levels of immigrants, personally the majority living in my area have jobs and work as hard as anyone, whereas my village is coming down with homegrown lazy bar stewards who never worked a day in their life, claim DLA and every other benefit, and drive better cars than me. As I said before the problem isn't the immigrants, its the benefits system.

 

Not sure from what you've written how much of the case you're presenting is consequential to your recent diversity training?

 

Diversity & Equality and immigration policy are 2 fairly distinct and separate subjects. If the majority of your diversity training was given over to discussing immigration it might be worth questioning the value and delivery of the training?

 

I believe the training was fair and non biased, its relevance to this thread was not in the facts and figures, but our mislead perception of the current situation which politicians including Farage use to launch their own agendas. Basic fear mongering.

 

If he's strong willed, determined, and sticks to his principles, might that not point to the fact that he's actually NOT a prick?

 

Those seem like fairly worthy (and increasingly rare!) attributes to me.

 

Yeah Hitler, Stalin, Sadam, and Bin Ladin were strong willed, determined, and stuck to their principles, nice bunch of lads in hindsight:thumbup:

[Billhook]

I cannot think why we need a petition for Farage when there already has been a fair debate on April 26th organised by the Spectator and Andrew Neill, at the London Palladium, in front of a large audience.

 

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With Chuka Umunna, Liz Kendall and Nick Clegg speaking on why we should remain and Kate Hoey, Nigel Farage and Daniel Hannan speaking on why we should leave.

 

It was very clear that the reasons to remain were weak and the reasons to leave were strong, vindicated by the audience response at the end which showed a very strong desire to leave having heard the arguments.

 

Liz Kendall was left speechless a couple of times. Andrew Neill conducted the whole debate in a very fair manner, much better than say Dimbleby.

 

It is an hour and a half but covers most of the discussion on both this thread and the Brexit thread.

So make yourselves a large cup of tea and have a supply of your favourite biccies at hand!

[difflock]

excellent