In praise of natural crotch lowering/rigging.

[carlos]

Sure Carlos, but how close to the SWL are we going in reality? Even with glazed rope.

 

good question, often thought how much was that lump, but without a pricey dynometer in the rigging system its all a bit guess work.

[MattyF]

Keep doing what your happy and comfy with Mick , I do find natural crutch rigging if we have too strangely satisfying ! But in the same token a lot more is possible with a decent pulley and 16mm double braid and lowering device... And there is no way my best 16 and 19mm double braid ropes are been used for both... I've seen glazed ropes snap negative rigging as well.

[jeanesy]

But what about multiple rigging points? Moving pulleys/xrings around takes time and effort. Glaze your rope a bit in a couple of months? No biggy, buy another, how much did your rope cost?

 

 

Personally it's not an issue. If you have to go to a point to put the rope through a crotch then it's an extra 10/20seconds to choke a sling and pulley around that crotch and pop rope through it.

Not knocking natural crotch, I do it and it has its place for sure. I work for one bloke in particular who prefers to run the ropes through a fork and he's great on the ropes. But I use his 3 strand and not my double braid if that's the case.

I have Yale polydyne.....which is eye wateringly expensive!!! But I trust it.

[Gary Prentice]

We rely,or are convinced by marketing that we NEED,certain pieces of kit to do our job when 20 years ago guys were doin the same job,to the same level with almost none of the kit that we use today.

 

I sometimes wonder how we managed?

[stihlmadasever]

I sometimes wonder how we managed?

 

[tree-fancier123]

Personally I just don't get all this rigging regardless of method, I use a lowering rope maybe a couple of time a year, often less. I cut and chuck or free fall virtually every tree. Theres always somewhere to put stuff and a brash mat protects patio slabs etc.

 

cool, although it takes a lot of experience to take on more risk and be more productive

I'd be bound to crack the slabs, something would find it's way through the brashmat, another one that would be costly is smashing a sewer or drain, not sure how easy it is to smash underground pipes with falling timber, must have happened

[MattyF]

cool, although it takes a lot of experience to take on more risk and be more productive

 

I'd be bound to crack the slabs, something would find it's way through the brashmat, another one that would be costly is smashing a sewer or drain, not sure how easy it is to smash underground pipes with falling timber, must have happened

 

 

Dave has a bloody great crane though for when most of us would be negative rigging.... Like you I would be finding the gaps in the brash mat

[Mesterh]

Personally I just don't get all this rigging regardless of method, I use a lowering rope maybe a couple of time a year, often less. I cut and chuck or free fall virtually every tree. Theres always somewhere to put stuff and a brash mat protects patio slabs etc.

 

I understand where your coming from but I am guilty of doing too much cut and chuck when a quick but of rigging would have been quicker and easier.

 

Do you not also think that because of the way your team worked it used to work of being a groundie with no saw you may have over the years got so used to cut and chuck that you can't see the benefits of rigging?

Ie your a dinosaur mate, get with the 20th century at least.

Maybe a rigging refresher course as I know you love getting all those licences

 

Snatching on a pole is something I have rarely done over the years, that does seem to take too much time for to little gain.

[treequip]

I sometimes wonder how we managed?

 

I think the "youth" should be made to do a working stint "old school" to give them a better appreciation of the difficulties and techniques involved.

[Mark Bolam]

I'm a bit wary of rigging.

I don't like those pieces swinging around near my ladders.