So you want to be a freelance climber do you?

[Johny Walker]

Whats up Jonny you bored???

 

Too busy to be bored lad.

[skyhuck]

Too busy to be bored lad.

 

Good for you

[Mick Dempsey]

How very disappointing

 

I have not referred to science once I speak from my personal experience and and that of those I have met, along with listing to many health experts on the radio.

 

Its pretty pathetic how many one here resort to nonsense and insult rather than try and build any sort coherent argument.

 

Well if you met some people and heard it on the the Jeremy Vine show who am I to argue?

 

Anyway tonight I'm just going to ponder long and hard about the crazy world we live in where you, of all people considering the last few days, can profess to find people's lack of ability to form a coherent argument and resort to nonsense and insult "pretty pathetic"

[Marc]

Presumably you feel employed climbers are in the same boat? So you see running your own firm is the only option??

 

I've not been employed since I was 19, I like self-employment.(well I guess I'm technically employed now by my limited Co, but you know what I mean )

 

I had an interesting discussion with a customer this week regarding age, he's 72, just been treated for very aggressive prostate cancer, he's never stopped and is greatly saddened to see all his contemporaries adopt your attitude towards life and getting older, they mostly eat and drink to much, do to little and then blame the failure of their bodies on age, its ridiculous.

 

There is no reason why a freelance climber cannot make a good living and they can also diversify into other work not just climbing, its a very real career choice IMO and one I sometimes wonder if I should have stuck with.

 

 

the whole it's a young mans game attitude needs to change, the best in the industry I have worked with are in their 40's to 70's young guys lack experience.

[skyhuck]

Well if you met some people and heard it on the the Jeremy Vine show who am I to argue?

 

Anyway tonight I'm just going to ponder long and hard about the crazy world we live in where you, of all people considering the last few days, can profess to find people's lack of ability to form a coherent argument and resort to nonsense and insult "pretty pathetic"

 

People may find my posts a little blunt, but I never insult and always endeavour to use reason and logic.

 

I'm happier following the examples such as this gentleman https://www.mariecurie.org.uk/donate/ranulph-fiennes-marathon rather than the give up and fester brigade

[eggsarascal]

People may find my posts a little blunt, but I never insult and always endeavour to use reason and logic.

 

I'm happier following the examples such as this gentleman https://www.mariecurie.org.uk/donate/ranulph-fiennes-marathon rather than the give up and fester brigade

 

Short memory!

[Johny Walker]

Short memory!

 

Pardon.

[RC0]

Interesting thread Adam. Thanks for sharing some of your experiences. I do believe it's different for everyone though....and it's impossible to predict the future how everything will eventually pan out.

 

I was employed for 4 years, and then self employed climber for 21+ to the present. For me the freedom, the experiences, the opportunities, the challenges, the money, completely outweighed any perks that employment had to offer. Paid time off at xmas and stuff....never meant anything to me, comparitively.

 

The key to continuity on my part was to make money for people....and take away their own confidence in their ability. That means constantly evolving and improving ones arsenal. And when you're doing tough jobs everyday, they just become routine. Easy. Whilst if a person only gets a tough job once in a while they're gonna find it a much greater challenge and often take a more cautious and lengthly approach. Interstingly, during many quiet periods when companies don't have much work on, I've found myself really busy....because collectively those companies have only had jobs on the sceduale that suit my skills a lot more than theirs. Just the way it goes sometimes.

 

More recently I've been doing sourcing a lot more if my own work, with a view to phasing out the freelance climbing etc. I've grown tired of salvaging underbid and poorly negotiated jobs; of hearing how hard it all is to run a full tree service. I'm not sure what kind kind of life they lived but clearly people's perception of hardship is quite varied. Work is not exactly falling at my feet right now at this early stage, but it's coming, and gaining. Because I'm hungry. I don't expect anything to be easy. This week I worked 4 days, and finished at 7 - 8 o clock on three of them. Just me, the whole jobs. No helpers. But I've got a pot of money for it. To keep. Feels good.

 

Some times bad life changing stuff happens as had with some members here more recently....and can happen to anyone. But outside of that it really is what you make if it. How you as an individual can impose your self on people and situations.

 

If I could give just 3 pieces of advice to aspiring freelance climbers they would be : always pick the toughest trees on a site. Keep learning and evolving. And always go home with a check at the end of a day or which ever is the last day of the week you work with that company....without exception or excuses.

[Stephen Blair]

Great post Reg.

[skyhuck]

Interesting thread Adam. Thanks for sharing some of your experiences. I do believe it's different for everyone though....and it's impossible to predict the future how everything will eventually pan out.

 

I was employed for 4 years, and then self employed climber for 21+ to the present. For me the freedom, the experiences, the opportunities, the challenges, the money, completely outweighed any perks that employment had to offer. Paid time off at xmas and stuff....never meant anything to me, comparitively.

 

The key to continuity on my part was to make money for people....and take away their own confidence in their ability. That means constantly evolving and improving ones arsenal. And when you're doing tough jobs everyday, they just become routine. Easy. Whilst if a person only gets a tough job once in a while they're gonna find it a much greater challenge and often take a more cautious and lengthly approach. Interstingly, during many quiet periods when companies don't have much work on, I've found myself really busy....because collectively those companies have only had jobs on the sceduale that suit my skills a lot more than theirs. Just the way it goes sometimes.

 

More recently I've been doing sourcing a lot more if my own work, with a view to phasing out the freelance climbing etc. I've grown tired of salvaging underbid and poorly negotiated jobs; of hearing how hard it all is to run a full tree service. I'm not sure what kind kind of life they lived but clearly people's perception of hardship is quite varied. Work is not exactly falling at my feet right now at this early stage, but it's coming, and gaining. Because I'm hungry. I don't expect anything to be easy. This week I worked 4 days, and finished at 7 - 8 o clock on three of them. Just me, the whole jobs. No helpers. But I've got a pot of money for it. To keep. Feels good.

 

Some times bad life changing stuff happens as had with some members here more recently....and can happen to anyone. But outside of that it really is what you make if it. How you as an individual can impose your self on people and situations.

 

If I could give just 3 pieces of advice to aspiring freelance climbers they would be : always pick the toughest trees on a site. Keep learning and evolving. And always go home with a check at the end of a day or which ever is the last day of the week you work with that company....without exception or excuses.

:congrats:

 

Your posts are not prolific, but when they come they are of real worth!!!

 

Nice one Reg