Employee Injury outside of work

[gensetsteve]

I thought the idea of staff and employees paying national insurance apart from the obvious is that should they become ill after three days they would get a reduced income that would not come out of the company purse. I bet mps still get full money if they break an ankle good of them to pull up another draw bridge.

You can still answer the phone make the coffee and maintain kit with a broken ankle.

[skyhuck]

I thought the idea of staff and employees paying national insurance apart from the obvious is that should they become ill after three days they would get a reduced income that would not come out of the company purse. I bet mps still get full money if they break an ankle good of them to pull up another draw bridge.

You can still answer the phone make the coffee and maintain kit with a broken ankle.

 

National insurance has become the only insurance where the ones who claim the most have paid the least in premiums, many having never paid any at all.

[Peter]

NI isn't insurance in any sense of the word, it's just second and third income tax.

[aspenarb]

NI isn't insurance in any sense of the word, it's just second and third income tax.

 

I think you are right, its such a small amount as a contribution it should just be abolished and tacked onto income tax. That would be a fair few seats less being polished by arses.

 

Bob

[Mick Dempsey]

Did you know, here in France you are deducted 47% of your income after tax as national insurance?

But you still have to pay every time you see the doctor.

[Paul Jenks]

I'm sure someone will be along soon to give you a round of applause. (Coz they couldn't think of an argument themselves)

 

If it's a case of ONLY £88/week why aren't employers paying an extra £20/day on day rates?

 

I'm not sure I understand the question

[thorndene forestry]

if an employee is worth their money, works hard for their wage, and is reliable and loyal to their company, paying SSP shouldn't be the end of the world to an employer that values their staff.

 

Sure, it's inconvenient, but let's remember that the injured employee would rather be at work. Not sitting at home with his leg up.

 

As has been said (because I couldn't think of my own argument), I'd question my loyalty to an employer that wasn't prepared to pay a minimum to help me get back to work.

 

Just a thought, but, there may be employees out there looking for the time off work whilst getting paid?? Even if that employee previously seemed to be a *good* employee with good attendance, good graft and improvement. (sorry if 'good' was over used there.)

The 'Jeremy Kyle Syndrome' I believe it is known as.......

[Ty Korrigan]

Did you know, here in France you are deducted 47% of your income after tax as national insurance?

But you still have to pay every time you see the doctor.

 

47% of your income BEFORE income tax as a self employed person.

Although with our business model I pay this rate only on my 'drawings' as I am 'non-salaried'

Basically the company 'lends' me the money to live on.

I keep the 'drawings' low and the company pays the 47% national insurance for me.

Then should there be profit I take a dividend at the end of the year which is taxed very much lower starting at zero to enable you to recuperate the amount of your original investment then 15%-30% rates apply.

Since 2003 I've not paid any income tax to date in France.

Ty

[Mick Dempsey]

Yes of course, I should have said after deductions, ie business costs.

[skyhuck]

Yes of course, I should have said after deductions, ie business costs.

 

Wouldn't have sounded as tough then though, would it