Arbtalk 2015 General Election Poll

[csservices]

Seems to be a plentiful supply of future MP's on here, based on the amount of pointless spouting on subjects not connected to the original subject and biased opinions with no basis is in fact Its over you cast your vote and who you voted for either did or did'nt win, fact of life, you can't please all the people all the time.

[Big J]

Big J, were you not the one who suggested that certain members of the Scottish electorate should have had their right to vote removed???

 

Haha! I was wondering if that would come up - I would argue that there is a difference between intellectually testing individuals and assigning rights to vote accordingly and disregarding an entire race due to perceived inherent intellectual shortcomings.

 

Well the person I quoted discovered DNA, he received a Nobel prize for doing it. You seem a smart person, I presume you know what a Nobel prize is?

 

To be frank I think I'd have to be absolutely stupid not to give weight to what a Nobel prize winner says about his specialist field....

 

It's fairly well known that races are physically different. For instance Africans are brilliant 100m runners, but whites are better at swimming. Is it really that crazy that the races have different levels of intelligence?

 

Look at the quote, he's implying that our approach to Africa is wrong, if we changed our approach to Africa and it reduced the amount of suffering would that not be a good thing? Or do we just have to accept pictures of starving children on our telly for ever more?

 

I disagree. The differences at the top of the sports you mention are minute (which is obviously all it takes in sport to win) and much of who is successful in a given sport is down to cultural influences.

 

Either way, to summarise your viewpoint thus far, I think it would be fair to say you believe that immigrants are a bunch of HIV riddled, low intelligence benefit scroungers. You cannot be surprised when you are met with hostility if you try to open a debate as to whether people of African descent are fundamentally thicker than everyone else. Have you perhaps considered the possibility that given the day to day struggles of living in poverty don't allow a huge amount of time for winning Nobel prizes?

[matelot]

I disagree. The differences at the top of the sports you mention are minute (which is obviously all it takes in sport to win) and much of who is successful in a given sport is down to cultural influences.

 

Either way, to summarise your viewpoint thus far, I think it would be fair to say you believe that immigrants are a bunch of HIV riddled, low intelligence benefit scroungers. You cannot be surprised when you are met with hostility if you try to open a debate as to whether people of African descent are fundamentally thicker than everyone else. Have you perhaps considered the possibility that given the day to day struggles of living in poverty don't allow a huge amount of time for winning Nobel prizes?

 

The next time you watch the Olympics look at the races that win the track events and look at the people in the swim events. Jamaicans are brilliant at 100m track events (did they not win the top three places in the last Olympics?). Is that really down to cultural differences or genetics?

 

Obviously not all immigrants have HIV etc. But would it not be good if we never allowed people into the UK that were going to be a drain to us?

 

To turn the tables, do you have any evidence that all ethnic groups are the same? Why are some countries like Russia and the US able to build rockets that can fly people into space, and then some countries need help to dig wells? This idea that all the races are equal does not seem to be reflected in what I see in the world....

[the village idiot]

Wow!!

 

That was a very interesting and occasionally astonishing catch up. I sincerely hope that some of the sentiments expressed are just done for show.

Eggs is probably right in saying that if confronted face to face the offending arguments would quickly crumble.

[breffni]

The next time you watch the Olympics look at the races that win the track events and look at the people in the swim events. Jamaicans are brilliant at 100m track events (did they not win the top three places in the last Olympics?). Is that really down to cultural differences or genetics?

 

Obviously not all immigrants have HIV etc. But would it not be good if we never allowed people into the UK that were going to be a drain to us?

 

To turn the tables, do you have any evidence that all ethnic groups are the same? Why are some countries like Russia and the US able to build rockets that can fly people into space, and then some countries need help to dig wells? This idea that all the races are equal does not seem to be reflected in what I see in the world....

 

Do you not think that the advantages that we in the west have are a lot to do with where we were to be born? We are lucky to be in a part of the world which suffers no extremes of weather or major diseases so from birth we are at an advantage compared to someone born say in sub Saharan Africa.

[matelot]

Do you not think that the advantages that we in the west have are a lot to do with where we were to be born? We are lucky to be in a part of the world which suffers no extremes of weather or major diseases so from birth we are at an advantage compared to someone born say in sub Saharan Africa.

 

in the middle ages Europe had really bad winter weather. The river Thames used to freeze over and they would have winter fairs on it... Having 4 months of bad weather is equally as bad as the weather in Africa...

 

Major diseases? We had plenty of them until we eradicated them...

[matelot]

Wow!!

 

That was a very interesting and occasionally astonishing catch up. I sincerely hope that some of the sentiments expressed are just done for show.

Eggs is probably right in saying that if confronted face to face the offending arguments would quickly crumble.

 

Wow! a poster produced by the "racism" industry against the Nobel prize winner who discovered DNA. Who is more credible?

[scotspine1]

matelot,

 

read this book and all will become clear -

 

[matelot]

The Village Idiot,

 

I was a bit bored and found the info below. It's interesting stuff.

 

"And some scholars have reported differences in average brain sizes between Africans, Europeans and Asians. J. P. Rushton has argued that Africans on average have smaller brain cases and brains than Europeans, and that this is evidence that the gap is biological in nature."

 

"Recent reviews by Nisbett et al. (2012b) and Mackintosh (2011) consider that current data does show an average difference in brain size and head-circumference between American Blacks and Whites"

 

I base my opinions on scientific evidence. What do you base your opinions on? Wishful thinking or posters produced by lobby groups?

[breffni]

matelot,

 

read this book and all will become clear -

 

 

Great book