Useless Stihl flippy cap leakes then broke

[Mountain man]

I've never had a problem with them TBH. The old style screw type had a limited life span because people pushed too hard with the screwdriver and eventually pierced the cap.

 

I've enough old saws in various states of disrepair to have a stock of this sort of stuff.

 

I understand your frustration though.

[NFG]

To all those who consider this an 'improvement':

 

1. They don't work, they never seem to align correctly so look like they are in when they are not, to date 1 tank of oil & 1 tank of fuel all down my chaps, even making alignment marks they still create a fiddle. Now its broke, even my O/H laughed a 'how on earth did that happen?' when I told her the fuel cap had actually broken.

 

2. They introduce dirt into the fuel & oil tanks as these wretched things have lots of crevices which trap dirt. Despite cleaning with a soft brush each time prior to filling dirt still finds its way in - that alone is reason to be rid of them.

 

3. I discovered in another forum the rubber used for the O seal was not of the correct material for fuel, how can this be?

 

As an engineer of some years I am seldom challenged, but of course this must be the users fault (?)

 

My money is on malevolence, no doubt some school leaver been given a project to fix a problem that did not exist, as badly as possible, as everything that can break must, such nastiness makes it a 'revenue stream'.

 

if this is an improvement, then the human race is surely doomed.

 

So now I will finish my rantings with dignity because if I had the money would drive my friends caterpillar digger over the saw posting the resulting video on YouTube for all to view my eternal dislike for this evil spawn of Satan.

 

Where after I would enter my local dealer & say in my best French "I would like a nice Husqvarna saw with screw in bungs that work, like on my 365 - please ".

 

 

N

Edited February 2, 2015 by NFG

[skyhuck]

To all those who consider this an improvement:

 

1. They don't work, they never seem to align correctly so look like they are in when they are not, to date 1 tank of oil & 1 tank of fuel all down my chaps, even making alignment marks they still create a fiddle. Now its broke, even my O/H laughed a 'how on earth did that happen?' when I told her the fuel cap had actually broken.

 

2. They introduce dirt into the fuel & oil tanks as these wretched things have lots of crevices which trap dirt. Despite cleaning with a soft brush each time prior to filling dirt still finds its way in - that alone is reason to be rid of them.

 

3. I discovered in another forum the rubber used for the O seal was not of the correct material for fuel, how can this be?

 

As an engineer of some years I am seldom challenged but of course it must be the users fault (?)

 

My money is on malevolence, no doubt some school leaver been given a project to fix a problem that did not exist, as badly as possible, as everything that can break must, such nastiness makes it a 'revenue stream'.

 

So now I will finish my rantings with dignity because if I had the money would drive my friends caterpillar digger over the saw posting the resulting video on YouTube for all to view my eternal dislike for this evil spawn of Satan.

 

Where after I would enter my local dealer & say in my best French "I would like a nice Husqvarna saw with screw in bungs that work, please".

 

 

N

 

Theres your problem right there

 

I have experienced none of the problems you list.

 

P.S. Is "bung" an engineering term???

[Ian C]

I don't like them either,much prefer the husky screw caps.

[IanW]

I tend to agree with this although I thought the new Husky flip caps were still the same screw in thread ( as opposed to Stihl 1/4 turn ) just with a flippy bit to screw it ?

 

 

yes husky still use same threads as it was the first thing I did when I got my new saws was change the caps.

 

I changed both the T540XP & 560XP

[IanW]

Utter rubbish, IME!!!!!!

 

 

 

I had far more problems with the old screw caps, and needing a tool at hand in order to simply fuel a saw was ridiculous, the new caps have addressed and solved that very problem and they do it very, very well

 

 

it simple.... just don't over tighten the caps.....

 

besides if some one over tightens the flip caps your unable to use a combi spanner to open them... so in my eyes makes them worse!

 

though the stihl 1/4 turn caps stopped the over tightening issue.

 

ian

[mendiplogs]

Hi Jon,

 

Probably but what is wrong with screw in bung? never had one of them gone wrong.

 

I wish I could meet the designer so I could give them a well aimed kick in the fork hopefully preventing any future reproduction as that sort of design nonsense needs eliminating by every possible means.

 

Theres a Husky 135 going for 199 euros in our local dealer & Im very tempted as I could get decent money on Leboncoin Site de petites annonces gratuites d'occasion - leboncoin.fr or in Arbtrader as its been well cared for & I have both 14 & 18" b&c as well.

 

N

HI NFG THATS WHAT i done to my mate last week at skittles as he was playing :lol:SO KICK HIM HARD IN THE :lol:THANKS JON

[spudulike]

From a techies point of view.

 

1) The screw in type can break their thumb tabs although it isn't too often. The type where you use a slot head screw driver can wear through or wear the slot in the cap.

 

The O rings can start to leak and have had one or two of the larger ones where the threads have worn and the cap is almost impossible to undo.

 

2) Flippy caps - generally good but can leak but a new O ring and clean up usually cures this.

 

They have a clutch type mechanism where the cap initially locks in to place and then compresses the O ring so it squeezes against the fuel hole. The main issue here is that if the clutch mechanism slips, the cap top doesn't rotate to the position the flippy bit doesn't lock down and THAT is a pain in the posterior. I have had to ease the tank and cap to get this to work properly - usually on MS200Ts!

 

What do I like the best - Flippy caps I guess although they get more crap in them and more chance of chip to fall in the tank but they ARE a tooless solution where the Husky screw style ones can be hard to remove easily.

[NFG]

Theres your problem right there

 

I have experienced none of the problems you list.

 

P.S. Is "bung" an engineering term???

 

I have experienced none of the problems you list. - Then you are fortunate,

 

Here is a barrel which containes 28 litres of our Pineau - thats a mixture of Eau de vie at 60% diluted with unfermented grape juice to around 20 percent proof.

 

Despite the barrel being very old, it is fairly watertight loosing less Pineau in half a century than I have fuel & oil in three years of flippy caps. It too is sealed with a bung, stopper, plug call it what you like, I dont mind, however the bung works & that is whats important.

 

N

[harrythecat178]

We see hundreds of Stihl chainsaws a year and the only flip cap that causes problems is the oil cap on MS181 and family models. The problem appears to be when the flip lid is not fully tightened before pushing the lid down. The are 2 recess holes in the cap lid that the flip needs to seat into, if it doesnt, it leaks