VOSA landy and tacho

[treequip]

Legislation is supposed to be black and while. I accept that there might be grey areas, but this multi coloured!

 

It isn’t a grey area at all, people that don’t understand it say “ohh it’s a grey area” and leave it at that. Others get confused between what the vehicle can legally do and what the restrictions of their driving licence allows them to do.

 

Then you get third hand anecdotal tales about a mate of someone’s cousin who got done for (didn’t get done for) a particular offence.

 

Occasionally you will get a sympathetic officer who may let an offence slide or finds an offence which better fits the remit of another agency which leads to, “well they stopped Johnny and he didn’t get done for it”.

 

The law is crystal clear ya just have to read up on it.

 

Andy

[Crazy Cutter]

got pulled today by vosa in my 300tdi disco pulling a 1 ton trailer with 2.5 ton of chipper (pto) on the back.

 

i was reliably informed that my landy should be fitted with a tacho as i was outside the 50k allowed and total weight combination was well above the peritted 3.5 ton. i was sign written on both the landy and the chipper so was unable to say it was for private use.

 

i was looking at a £200 fixed penalty and a prohibition where i would have had to leave the trailer on site and return with a vehicle with a tacho and capable of towing 3.5ton

 

thankful due to my politeness and my explanation of this whole thing was new to me , they let me go with a caution and some bumf to read.

 

Someone needs to check this out? An officer told me today that a chipper isn't a trailer as it doesn't carry weight so in theory its plant meaning its not included within the combination weight! Would that mean no tachogragh? You can tow any chipper or plant as long as its within the vehicles towing limits. Also cherrypickers are supposedly plant so can be run on red on the highway?

[Big 'Ammer]

And here we go again...

[Mark James]

It isnt a grey area at all, people that dont understand it say ohh its a grey area and leave it at that. Others get confused between what the vehicle can legally do and what the restrictions of their driving licence allows them to do.

 

Then you get third hand anecdotal tales about a mate of someones cousin who got done for (didnt get done for) a particular offence.

 

Occasionally you will get a sympathetic officer who may let an offence slide or finds an offence which better fits the remit of another agency which leads to, well they stopped Johnny and he didnt get done for it.

 

The law is crystal clear ya just have to read up on it.

 

Andy

 

The law might be crystal clear but the muppets that in force the law have some wild interpretation of it, that's the problem I have and if you where correct in your thinking then every case that goes to court would be a conviction. And we know that that's not the case.

 

 

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[gensetsteve]

You are guilty of trying to earn a living and with that information they will work out you probably earnt some money. This what they are after and unfortunately we are an easy target.

[treequip]

Someone needs to check this out? An officer told me today that a chipper isn't a trailer as it doesn't carry weight so in theory its plant meaning its not included within the combination weight! Would that mean no tachogragh? You can tow any chipper or plant as long as its within the vehicles towing limits. Also cherrypickers are supposedly plant so can be run on red on the highway?

 

 

What kind of officer? Police, vosa, other?

 

You need to go back to him and tell him he is wrong it makes no difference if it's plant or cargo.

 

 

Larger mewps can run on red, under 3500kg need to be on white if memory serves.

[Justme]

An officer told me today that a chipper isn't a trailer as it doesn't carry weight so in theory its plant meaning its not included within the combination weight! Would that mean no tachogragh? You can tow any chipper or plant as long as its within the vehicles towing limits. Also cherrypickers are supposedly plant so can be run on red on the highway?

 

But the chipper was on the trailer not was the trailer.

 

As it was a load on a trailer it matters not what it is or is not.

[Crazy Cutter]

But the chipper was on the trailer not was the trailer.

 

As it was a load on a trailer it matters not what it is or is not.

 

i mean't wheeled chipper.

[billpierce]

such a pain in the arse! and everyone seems to tell you something different. depends also when you passed your test no? you vehicle should have a max train wieght which should tell you what you can pull with that vehicle - my hilux is a joke - says 1.5 tonne total trailer load or something like that! if your total wieght is less than 3.5 tonne do you still need a tach?

[toprotter]

:biggrin:Best of getting a caravan beef it up, strip it out and fill it with chip or deliver kindling with it