The Art of Zig Zag

[Joe Loggs]

Yes of course bud and remember its rated 11.5-13mm only lol. Which i guess they might point out and not replace the zz bud

 

 

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I no pal, I'm not after a replacement as I'm going to attack mine myself :-). With time the links will smooth out.

 

 

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[Dan Earp]

Good luck bud and remind me to update say in a month

 

 

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[surveyor]

This is such a shame, as this may turn people off to mechanical descenders. Especially since, in my opinion, it is the sharp edge on the half circle edge of the bollard that is doing the damage to the rope, as the rope is flattened running through the device riding up unto that edge.

[cl3525]

I hope these are just isolated incidents. That said I think I might cancel my order now.

[marcus_arb]

Canceled mine, might wait and see if they bring out a mk2

[Marc]

Canceled mine, might wait and see if they bring out a mk2

 

Wuss! Yet you still climb on that dodgy spider jack and the dodgy pulley saver all known to trash ropes from time to time. I am concerned, I also think we got to be realistic here and try to keep it positive and not trash the product.

You are someone who is really into his kit and how it can help in the commercial tree work and being a product innovator yourself have got to appreciate teething problems may occur.

 

Going on what surveyor has said I cannot believe a burr on these notches would cause this damage, the notches themselves are not a large enough radius for most diameters anyway so the rope is always in contact with that edge and if a burr was present I'd expect damage to show sooner as the rope will eventually polish defects, and wear the bollards as this is intentional from my understanding, I'm yet to see for sure what is causing this damage.

[marcus_arb]

Wuss! Yet you still climb on that dodgy spider jack and the dodgy pulley saver all known to trash ropes from time to time. I am concerned, I also think we got to be realistic here and try to keep it positive and not trash the product.

You are someone who is really into his kit and how it can help in the commercial tree work and being a product innovator yourself have got to appreciate teething problems may occur.

 

Going on what surveyor has said I cannot believe a burr on these notches would cause this damage, the notches themselves are not a large enough radius for most diameters anyway so the rope is always in contact with that edge and if a burr was present I'd expect damage to show sooner as the rope will eventually polish defects, and wear the bollards as this is intentional from my understanding, I'm yet to see for sure what is causing this damage.

 

True I am a massive gear junkie, and I'm not knocking the ZZ at all I think it's a nice piece of kit but the main reason I wanted one was to use SRT with the RW but as someone else has unfortunately found out the hard way it's not a good idea, and after having a go on one at the weekend I think the cons out weigh the pros for me but I would be interested in a mk2 if they got rid of the swivel and added a third connection point and rounded it off nicely but we shall have to wait and see

[Dean Lofthouse]

Wuss! Yet you still climb on that dodgy spider jack and the dodgy pulley saver all known to trash ropes from time to time. I am concerned, I also think we got to be realistic here and try to keep it positive and not trash the product.

You are someone who is really into his kit and how it can help in the commercial tree work and being a product innovator yourself have got to appreciate teething problems may occur.

 

Going on what surveyor has said I cannot believe a burr on these notches would cause this damage, the notches themselves are not a large enough radius for most diameters anyway so the rope is always in contact with that edge and if a burr was present I'd expect damage to show sooner as the rope will eventually polish defects, and wear the bollards as this is intentional from my understanding, I'm yet to see for sure what is causing this damage.

 

That was my interpretation upon close inspection Marc

[pault]

I am ordering one for my birthday tomorrow and am buying myself a new rope as its time to retire my current one. I guess my question is what is the optimal rope for the ZZ? i have my eye on yale blue tongue 11.7mm or the imori 12mm. What is other peoples view on this? i have heard from quite a few people that 11.7mm is a perfect width for the ZZ.

[redmoosefaction]

I am ordering one for my birthday tomorrow and am buying myself a new rope as its time to retire my current one. I guess my question is what is the optimal rope for the ZZ? i have my eye on yale blue tongue 11.7mm or the imori 12mm. What is other peoples view on this? i have heard from quite a few people that 11.7mm is a perfect width for the ZZ.

 

Just my twopence worth, but I found the Imori so flexible/supple, that I found it twisting itself around the smallest of twigs, which stopped me climbing. Others will say they love it, what do I know.