Pardon for my ignorance

[Dean Lofthouse]

Totally agree with you Graham.

 

The consumer drives down prices and forces retailers to find ways of reducing end user costs, the way they do that is to use cheap cuts and stuff the producers by making them produce for next to nowt.

 

I know in times of need you must buy conservatively but there is a line where you can't go below to buy decent meat, go below that line and you end up with crap, that goes for any product, be it electricals, white good or food.

 

I know this is a different scenario with fraudulently labelling meat as something else, but cheap ready meats etc are the perfect source to mask crap meat with spices and herbs

[breffni]

Have you not read or watched the news? It was said beef is six times more expensive than horse. would you be happy spending 600 sheets on a chinese iphone?

 

Where do you think iPhones are made?

[cousin jack]

It's all down to greed. The supplier's greedy for profit and the consumer's greedy for wanting cheap, cheap, cheap with as little effort as possible.

 

The consumer will quite happily sit and watch lifestyle cookery programmes on TV yet they'll stick ready made crap in front of their family.

 

The average consumer is now a lazy lard a**" and as long as they exist then there's a ready market to be exploited.

 

Stop sitting on the fence and say what you really think, Graham!

Where I grew up we had a slaughter house in the village, and as I had family that worked in it I spent a lot of time there, so I had no illusions about where meat came from. The problem now is that the general public are so far removed from where their food comes from, they don't care, unless the media choose to emphasize it. All they see now in a supermarket is marketing and a cellophane wrapped "product".

[TGB]

The comment that one has to supposedly eat 500 burgers before anything bad happens, is I presume, aimed at people who are in good nick. And by that I mean, someone who is 100% healthy and not taking any prescribed medicine. For all those who actually do read the instructions, (before) taking over-the-counter meds; how many times have you read, "If you are already taking prescribed medicine, ask your pharmacist or doctor before taking..." This is a precaution against one drug either compounding or eroding the desired effect of the drug/s already being taken. No matter how small a dose the secondary drug enters the body in. As one who has to take a commonly prescribed drug on a daily basis, in order to maintain good health. I would not want to be in a situation, where what I ate, unknowingly compounded or cancelled out my meds. Plus, if anything untoward did happen. How would your doctor know which drug interconnection to look for? There is the potential for great pain, months of needless medical investigation and or possible death. Just because you unknowingly ate medicated meat and happened to be taking another medicine.

 

The beef, lamb, pork, etc. that people in the UK eat, (discounting seafood) has a known & documented history. It may be a right pain for the farmers but it helps maintain a good quality, (and safe) product to the end user, i.e the person who eats it.

 

If you're fit and healthy, I wish you well. But if you have a loved one, who through no fault of their own, either short or long-term, just happens to be on a prescribed medicine. Then you would be well advised to know exactly what you/they are eating. And be justifiably outraged on learning that you'd been duped, just so some multi national company could make more, on the money you spend. Without giving a damn for your ongoing health.

 

I should add that most of this has nought to do with me, as I'm a veggie. But there are some amongst my relatives and friends, who are now in a pickle, not knowing exactly what they may have eaten and if their health has be compromised as a result thereof.

 

 

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[daveindales]

compared with mad cow disease this is making a mountain out of a mole hill. Millions of cattle were thought to be infected and it crossed over to sucesptible people. It has so far killed about 170 people. It was thought at one stage that hundreds of thousands of people would die from the disease. Thankfully, this has not been the case (so far)

 

This is more a case of fraud, and is serious. Needs to be stopped, and those accountable brought to justice, but can't be compared to the mad cow disease scare.

[Daniël Bos]

The comment that one has to supposedly eat 500 burgers before anything bad happens, is I presume, aimed at people who are in good nick. And by that I mean, someone who is 100% healthy

 

The comment you refer to, and your presumption are both wrong.

 

The statement was: that you'd have to eat between 500 and 600 burgers daily, made from 100% horse, 100% of which had been treated with bute to come near the dose prescribed to humans.

 

The humans the drug was (and still is for some rare diseases) prescribed to were not healthy, and the severe side-effects experienced by a small proportion of those taking the medicine happened in people who were quite unwell to start with.

 

They've never tested the effects of this drug on people who are 100% healthy as it has known potentially severe side-effects. Testing a drug like that with no potential positive outcome serves no scientifically justifiable ethical purpose.

 

 

Personally I'm more worried about the animal welfare issues. If the origins of meat are not known, there is no chance of any control of welfare standards.

 

As far as the consumers go, pay an honest price for an honest product!

 

Daniel (producer of honest beef, lamb and poultry)

[Old Mill Tree Care]

I think this is fantastic news. Finally something is being done about the burger-munching chav underclass!

 

That made me laugh!

 

 

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[Old Mill Tree Care]

I'd love to see more meats being sold as they did years ago. At the moment you have to go to specialist butchers

 

Hare, rabbit, grouse, pheasant, venison, horse, kangaroo, wallaby, sparrow, magpie, rook, squirrel, duck, etc etc

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I'd like that too

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[Syd_B]

Stop sitting on the fence and say what you really think, Graham!

Where I grew up we had a slaughter house in the village, and as I had family that worked in it I spent a lot of time there, so I had no illusions about where meat came from. The problem now is that the general public are so far removed from where their food comes from, they don't care, unless the media choose to emphasize it. All they see now in a supermarket is marketing and a cellophane wrapped "product".

 

He's right tho, too many people see the beef/lamb/chicken as a meal that starts life in the freezer eisle.

 

I was talking to a chap the other day that was cooking himself Tesco chicken burgers, this same chap said that he doesn't buy caged eggs because of the concerns he has for the animal welfare(a legitimate concern thb) he said all this without the slightest traces of irony.

 

How can people be so simple?

[pie eater pete]

I like the fact that Lidl sold hare until some gits started jumping up and down about the brown hare being an endangered species. They came from bloody Argentina & Chille where the things are an imported pest.

 

Human Tastes like chicken.

 

The Korowai call us LongPigs. Tastes like pork.