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gyphosate!..I keep getting call-backs to repoison stumps, have tried large doses of salt same problem. I'm going to try and get some Amcide from France....failing that...its going to be an SBK/diesel 'agent orange' mix :(

 

sbk works wen wen mixed rich, bago shite if u does as instructed ,like most poisens these days

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I think it's a case of getting the old table salt out again, for poisoning the stumps!

 

Archives of Toxicology, Volume 86, Number 5 - SpringerLink

 

And if you can't be bothered to read it, a quick synopsis:

 

Monsanto's Roundup is toxic to human DNA even when diluted to concentrations 450-fold lower than used in agricultural applications

 

Glyphosate (G) is the largest selling herbicide worldwide; the most common formulations (Roundup, R) contain polyoxyethyleneamine as main surfactant. Recent findings indicate that G exposure may cause DNA damage and cancer in humans.

 

Words like, indicate, may, and damage throw up many red flags but until conclusive evidence exist, I will continue to use products that contain Glyphosate, or I can just start using that butter flavoring at the movies:001_rolleyes:

easy-lift guy

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Hmmm Butter flavouring...

I spread it on toast because although it 'may' cause cancer it also lowers cholestrol whilst giving my piss the potency to control any weeds I choose to wee on.

Ty:biggrin:

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a quick synopsis:

 

Monsanto's Roundup is toxic to human DNA even when diluted to concentrations 450-fold lower than used in agricultural applications

 

Based upon your synopsis i can be bothered to read it, however it seems to cost 35 Euro to do so. Do you have a copy?

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Has Timbrel not been removed from the approved list now? ALong with garlon 4 & some other glyphosphate based herbicides?

 

I'm not aware, but as always 'stand to be corrected', that Timbrel (Triclopyr) has been removed from use. I was aware that Glyphosate was under review.

 

Amcide (Ammonium sulphamate) whilst withdrawn, effectively, as a herbicide, is still available as a 'compost accelerant'....hmmm.

 

Not heard anything about the effectveness, or otherwise, of Eco-plugs (Glyphosate)....sorry!

 

Cheers all..

Paul

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The registration of Timbrel for sale finishes 1st November 2012. I understand retailers will have until 1st April 2013 to sell off the remaining stock. The end user will have until 1st April 2014 to use up supplies.

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Amcide (Ammonium sulphamate) whilst withdrawn, effectively, as a herbicide, is still available as a 'compost accelerant'....hmmm.

 

 

That was my understanding, so it's alright to compost stumps in situ? :001_smile:

 

We've lost many herbicides for use in forestry because the market is relatively small and not worth the suppliers pursuing a licence. Others like the residual ones went because they were found in groundwater/aquifers.

 

The bracken control group appear to have successfully fought a rearguard action to continue using asulam for the time being

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I was pissed when we in the Amenities/grounds care side lost "Simazine Aminatriozol" (phonetic spelling only) a good affordable residual weedkiller, simply because the Gypsy "tarmac" clowns et al used it by the cwt. below their otherwise doncy bitmac.

Generally applied with a 14" wide mouthed shovel straight from the wheelbarrow.

It then not suprisingly started showing up in aquifers/groundwater.:thumbdown:

However any herbicide that has a residual element will I presume inevitably find its way into the wider environment, especially if used to excess.

At least with the agricultural use of Glyphosphate the buggers of farmers are so tight/thrifty they can be trusted not to use to excess:lol:

cheers

Marcus

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