One reason I use Aspen

[bmp01]

2 hours ago, GardenKit said:

I started to contemplate the real cost of pump petrol.

 

Just suppose you have three guys on their way to the job in the van. They dont need diesel but are low on petrol so they divert to the garage and fill the cans.

It takes about 10 minutes to fill and pay, but the guys should really be on the job at £20 per hour each, so the three of them are losing £1 per minute, so £10 lost earnings. 

But you are also paying them £10 per hour each, so have paid them collectively £5 to get fuel.

So its cost £15 to get the petrol, assuming that the garage was beside the road they were travelling, but if it was 10 minutes off their route, (and 10 minutes back) then there is another £30 on top (plus diesel)

And of course, most guys go into the shop for pies and coffee, and maybe a paper. so there is often a bit more time spent in the layby up the road drinking the coffee and eating, but we wont cost that, after all its a perk, isn't it.

So a 20 litre can of fuel at £25 may now have cost £70, which is £8 more than 20 litres of Aspen at the bulk rate.

 

The Aspen could have been grabbed from the store in the yard, alleviating the need for a garage break. 

 

Just a light hearted take on this, but maybe there are some extra costs involved with petrol which we care to ignore.

 

 

Jeez, really ?

We better not think about the cost to get to a dealer to collect Aspen then ....... or the time wasted waited for a delivery. 

Don't get me wrong,  i think Aspen is a good product but it needs to be sold on its merits.

 

 

Edited November 15, 2017 by bmp01
Correction

[Mik the Miller]

13 hours ago, GardenKit said:

Almost correct Mik, but the discount I offer for 3 or more cans is 5%, not 3%.  But this only applies up to 54 cans. 

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Admittedly its still nearly 3 times the price of pump fuel, but its not pump fuel. Aspen should not be compared to pump fuel on price alone, there are many benefits that are difficult to put a price on.

 

Sorry I read that as 3% on 3 cans or more not 5% - my apologies.

Genreally though my point was that it is difficult to qualify (in my opinion/circumstance) paying (almost) three times the price of petrol.

 

In my opinion Alkalyte is overpriced here in the UK, not becasue of the retailers (you in this instance Mr GardenKit) but because the distributors are agreesively marking it up. I do agree that if petrol were sold in 5L cans it would be more than it is, hwever you are forced to buy your Alkalyte in this packaging as there is no alternative and you need a licence to hold more than 10L in plastic cans ...

[peatff]

It ought to be sold like petrol where you can take your can and have it filled. It bugs me that the containers are not recycled in this way. I hate wasting something useful.

[AHPP]

Stihl have changed their five litre MotoMix cans from the clear ones (that are as good as any can you'd buy from a garage if you ran out of fuel) to orange disposable ones like Aspen's always come in. A great shame because they were handy cans. A dealer told me it was so that users could crush them down to get them in bins.

There's a cracking bit in The Book of Eli about wastefulness:

 

Solara: Do you remember what it was like? I mean, in the world before?

Eli: People had more than they needed. We had no idea what was precious, what wasn't. We threw away things people kill each other for now.

[PC Treescapes]

We buy it in the 200litre metal drum and then you don't have a load of plastic bottles to get rid of, just the one off cost of a barrel pump.

[GardenKit]

A few interesting comments in the last few posts.

 

Yes, it would be good to see Aspen in pumps, just as are found in several european countries, but I don't think it will happen in the UK for a good few years. Despite the continual growth in sales over the last few years the overall sales in the UK are still quite low.

We are in the top 10 best selling UK Aspen dealers yet our sales still fall far short of justifying a bulk tank, and, if I am honest, a good 80% of our customers would prefer buying in the 5 litre cans and be dismayed if we only sold by pump. They love the cans for the convenience and cleanliness of buying, transporting and storing the fuel.

 

The 5litre cans do seem a bit wasteful, but they are completely recyclable as they are made from exactly the same plastic as the humble milk bottle which we are more than happy to dispose of in the recycle bin. Nobody seem to be calling for Tesco to have a milk churn from which we can fill our own containers, and also many people prefer to buy expensive water in throw away bottles rather than take it from the bulk supply we all have in our kitchens, so the Aspen can is no more controversial.

Simply remove the lid and the 'wrap' and put you empties in the recycle bin where they will go on to bigger and better things.

 

For those who use higher volumes of Aspen there is always the option, as has been said, of buying in 200 litre steel drums. Several of the pro users we supply have gone over to these.

 

And, in answer to Mik the Miller's statement, I do not agree that Aspen is overpriced. True, it is expensive, but it is after all an expensive product to produce, bottle, and transport to the UK. Then it has to be stored in a bonded warehouse, pallets have to be broken down and repacked for onward distribution to dealers and bulk users. This all costs money and, believe me, nobody in the supply chain is "aggressively marking up", if anything, the margins are a little too low for a sensible business plan.

[AHPP]

2 hours ago, GardenKit said:

Nobody seem to be calling for Tesco to have a milk churn from which we can fill our own containers

I had that written in my post above but took it out to not cloud the issue!

[peatff]

We have our milk delivered in glass bottles and the milkman collects them and leaves us another full one, controversial I know but it's how we like to do things. 

Edited November 16, 2017 by peatff
speelong

[kcstevens]

A few interesting comments in the last few posts.
 
Yes, it would be good to see Aspen in pumps, just as are found in several european countries, but I don't think it will happen in the UK for a good few years. Despite the continual growth in sales over the last few years the overall sales in the UK are still quite low.
We are in the top 10 best selling UK Aspen dealers yet our sales still fall far short of justifying a bulk tank, and, if I am honest, a good 80% of our customers would prefer buying in the 5 litre cans and be dismayed if we only sold by pump. They love the cans for the convenience and cleanliness of buying, transporting and storing the fuel.
 
The 5litre cans do seem a bit wasteful, but they are completely recyclable as they are made from exactly the same plastic as the humble milk bottle which we are more than happy to dispose of in the recycle bin. Nobody seem to be calling for Tesco to have a milk churn from which we can fill our own containers, and also many people prefer to buy expensive water in throw away bottles rather than take it from the bulk supply we all have in our kitchens, so the Aspen can is no more controversial.
Simply remove the lid and the 'wrap' and put you empties in the recycle bin where they will go on to bigger and better things.
 
For those who use higher volumes of Aspen there is always the option, as has been said, of buying in 200 litre steel drums. Several of the pro users we supply have gone over to these.
 
And, in answer to Mik the Miller's statement, I do not agree that Aspen is overpriced. True, it is expensive, but it is after all an expensive product to produce, bottle, and transport to the UK. Then it has to be stored in a bonded warehouse, pallets have to be broken down and repacked for onward distribution to dealers and bulk users. This all costs money and, believe me, nobody in the supply chain is "aggressively marking up", if anything, the margins are a little too low for a sensible business plan.

Is the reason why most people like to buy it in 5l bottles because most people that buy it are none pro. Therefore don't use a lot and like it for the shelf life. My local dealer actually said how it's not worth it on a commercial bases... whoops

[kcstevens]

Also, Is the health benefits all a bit of a fad. Due to the plastic??? Short sighted maybe. Hopefully not