Surge in sales of used double cabs after Xmas?

[Johnsond]

10 hours ago, peds said:

I'm looking at a Hilux at the moment. 

I hope they get taxed into oblivion for most people. I'll be using mine, but even out here on the west coast, most of them haven't seen a lick of work, and could easily be replaced by a mid-sized estate. 

Why would you want things to be taxed into oblivion for most people as you put it 🤷‍♂️what kind of mentality is that other than typical left wing envy control BS, it still means as a business or self employed even if you do use yours you are going to be massively worse off than previously under the new system, not just a few quid but upwards of 10-15k depending on what you choose to buy. 
Go to Thainston farmers market near me  or any other mart for that matter all over the country and you’ll see hundreds of them towing livestock trailers and loaded up to the hilt. As you guys are fond of saying you are missing the point totally 🤷‍♂️ it’s a collective punishment tax that hits the ones who need them the most, those who don’t will just swap to something else. 

[Mike Hill]

13 hours ago, peds said:

I'm looking at a Hilux at the moment. 

I hope they get taxed into oblivion for most people. I'll be using mine, but even out here on the west coast, most of them haven't seen a lick of work, and could easily be replaced by a mid-sized estate. 

 

Why though?

 

Do they not share the same sized engine as a mid sized estate?

 

If you are looking at it from a pollution/ emissions stand point. Pleasure boats are the worst,followed by private light aircraft.

[peds]

3 hours ago, Mike Hill said:

 

Why though?

 

Do they not share the same sized engine as a mid sized estate?

 

If you are looking at it from a pollution/ emissions stand point. Pleasure boats are the worst,followed by private light aircraft.

 

Bit of a difference between a 1.7 ford focus and a 2.5 or 3 litre pickup.

 

I agree, pleasure boats and private aircraft are a joke, and need to be taxed out of existence. 

[Mike Hill]

2 minutes ago, peds said:

 

Bit of a difference between a 1.7 ford focus and a 2.5 or 3 litre pickup.

 

I agree, pleasure boats and private aircraft are a joke, and need to be taxed out of existence. 

 

Well no.

 

See how long your 1.7liter focus lasts when loaded with tree gear,pulling a tracked chipper on a trailer.

 

I tried that when I first started. 2 liter volvo diesel estate. It was comfy but not fit for purpose,nor was the VW caddy.

 

I bought a 1990 6.2 liter Diesel Chev Suburban and it's still going now albeit with new owners. Must be over 400,000km on it now. If car makers built robust vehicles we would need fewer of them.

 

 

[Mark Bolam]

We should all drive electric vehicles instead of killing the planet.

[GarethM]

11 minutes ago, Mark Bolam said:

We should all drive electric vehicles instead of killing the planet.

Yeah, we'll leave the dying to the children digging the rare earth metals.

 

That'll teach those pesky climate types!.

[difflock]

We choose to live in a house that is now "too big" for 2 retired people, but FFS! we are paying eye-watering rates for the privilege of doing so. And hope to leave it to one of our children.

Labours policies are ALL driven by the green eyed God of envy and spite.

Which policies appeal to their feckless voters base.

[GarethM]

Yeap, and the someone advocating it had built a new house.

 

Might change his socialist tune once the council tax bill comes in on F or G band because is new!.

[Steven P]

End of the day though it is a business tool.

 

Same as any tool we use for work, estimate the total number of running hours, the outlay, running costs, taxes, fuels and so on, divide by the length of a job and that is what the customer pays. Simple business maths, if the running costs go up then what the customer pays goes up, or you don't pass on the cost and make a loss. My choice: My kids eat, or the customers kids eat... so my rate increases. The business doesn't take a hit on the extra tax.

 

I can see where the whinges start 'hitting the business' if you haven't done the basics and don't know what it all costs, or if the vehicle isn't a business expense but a personal one... but pass it onto the business and increase the rate.

 

Say 15,000 miles a year, add in 20 to 30p a mile whatever it is to cover the tax increase, a small increase in the price of a job when your charging ££ to the hour to do the work. 50 mile round trip... adds £15, but at a day rate of £300+ it is an amount the customer can afford, add in 2 more passengers, £1k a day, £15 is peanuts for the customer.

 

[GarethM]

7 minutes ago, Steven P said:

End of the day though it is a business tool.

 

Same as any tool we use for work, estimate the total number of running hours, the outlay, running costs, taxes, fuels and so on, divide by the length of a job and that is what the customer pays. Simple business maths, if the running costs go up then what the customer pays goes up, or you don't pass on the cost and make a loss. My choice: My kids eat, or the customers kids eat... so my rate increases. The business doesn't take a hit on the extra tax.

 

I can see where the whinges start 'hitting the business' if you haven't done the basics and don't know what it all costs, or if the vehicle isn't a business expense but a personal one... but pass it onto the business and increase the rate.

 

Say 15,000 miles a year, add in 20 to 30p a mile whatever it is to cover the tax increase, a small increase in the price of a job when your charging ££ to the hour to do the work. 50 mile round trip... adds £15, but at a day rate of £300+ it is an amount the customer can afford, add in 2 more passengers, £1k a day, £15 is peanuts for the customer.

 

Said like a typical labour politician, its just the  usual smudging numbers.

 

But it's only 15, yeah and you have to pass all that on and it's benefits nobody!.

 

If all it does is increase customers bill what's the point of doing it!.

 

All well and good when you work in an office!, but outside in the real world it's bloody hard making every penny.

Edited Thursday at 16:58 by GarethM