HMRC punitively changing 4 door pickup rules

[judastreefairy]

On 15/02/2024 at 08:55, sime42 said:

Half the people, the posers, that drive pickups don't need the off-road capability anyway. A van would surely be more practical in those cases.

Too be fair marra, I don’t know why you would give a Duck  about about that sort of stuff🤮🤮 is it actually effecting you in anyway ( apart from pushing you on the muddy verge with your 4x4 👌 ). Maybe they fancied a 4x4 because they’ve worked  like a dog for multiple years with constant well earned money drip fed to the TaxVAt man. “ I am apart of half them people making clever Ducks like you , pull the duck over”😜😜😜

 

yours faithfully 

 

Gary lineker

[Bolt]

7 hours ago, difflock said:

Fixed that for you.

I think you will find that they park on either these:

 

 

or these:

 

[devon TWiG]

37 minutes ago, Botty Cough said:

A range rover will do all of that and has far more class being the executioner of all witches.

Aren't Range Rovers one of the most despised ( as well as stolen and unreliable ) vehicles on the road ??

[Dan Maynard]

2 hours ago, swinny said:

What about company owners / sole traders who use the pickups as a 2nd vehicle to tow to site and for support vehicle? What's the crack then?

I think it's got more complicated. As far as I know if you have a commercial vehicle only for "business use" then you simply put all expenses through the business. That would still be easy for a van or truck, but no longer for a double cab pickup.

 

When you get into cars there's a whole load of rules, tax all depends on CO2 rate, i think it becomes a consult your accountant but you have to pay tax on any element of private use.

 

Seems like if you could change it to 2 seat pickup then becomes commercial again so easier. Another reason to stick to my 110 hardtop as it's a van.

[swinny]

19 minutes ago, Dan Maynard said:

I think it's got more complicated. As far as I know if you have a commercial vehicle only for "business use" then you simply put all expenses through the business. That would still be easy for a van or truck, but no longer for a double cab pickup.

 

When you get into cars there's a whole load of rules, tax all depends on CO2 rate, i think it becomes a consult your accountant but you have to pay tax on any element of private use.

 

Seems like if you could change it to 2 seat pickup then becomes commercial again so easier. Another reason to stick to my 110 hardtop as it's a van.

Endless reasons for a dc 4x4..... 

 

Where I live in winter and where yards is I wouldn't be able to access it. What about site jobs where we go with the dc 4x4 and 3 lads towing tracked chipper? Surely it's just new vehicles registered from a certain date? 

[Dan Maynard]

39 minutes ago, swinny said:

Surely it's just new vehicles registered from a certain date? 

New vehicle ordered after July 1st 2024. Will become applicable to all from 2028 so you've got 4 years on existing truck.

 

Bit of a guess what happens to pickup values in 2028, maybe a lot of business pickups get sold.

[sime42]

1 hour ago, Bolt said:

I think you will find that they park on either these:

 

 

or these:

 

 

No need to worry about road markings or signs. As long as you stick your hazards on and keep you engine running, you can park wherever you like.

[Johnsond]

2 hours ago, Doug Tait said:

 

It really couldn't.

Your right it couldn’t as to achieve what you describe would require a modicum of reliability. 

[Johnsond]

34 minutes ago, Dan Maynard said:

New vehicle ordered after July 1st 2024. Will become applicable to all from 2028 so you've got 4 years on existing truck.

 

Bit of a guess what happens to pickup values in 2028, maybe a lot of business pickups get sold.

HMRC using a sledgehammer to crack a nut as usual. A good selling often very cost effective tool that benefits many  users ( many of whom

are hard working self employed types) in a multitude of ways. 🤷‍♂️utter greed nothing more. 

[Botty Cough]

6 hours ago, Johnsond said:

Your right it couldn’t as to achieve what you describe would require a modicum of reliability. 

My 1998 range rover TDI is far more reliable than any of the import double cabs and just keeps going on and on and on ....

It has out lasted Navara, rodeo,dmax,ranger and Hilux by far which all have had complex problems.

It's simple , strong and above all ultimately cheap to run. Alongside the 4000kg towing capacity it's great off road.

It just can't be beaten for work by anything double cab at all, I've tried.

 

Edited February 19, 2024 by Botty Cough