Over worked and under payed

[5thelement]

15 minutes ago, Steven P said:

He reckons about 18k a year in expenses for local work

That’s a lot of Buckfast. 

[Puffingbilly413]

42 minutes ago, Steven P said:

He reckons about 18k a year in expenses for local work

Which is crazy. No way should it be that much for a freelance climber. Unless he's including other expenses that come with running own jobs IE yard rent, insurance etc 

[josharb87]

18 hours ago, Cain said:

Unfortunately rates are the rates hence why I started this conversation!!  I get payed the higher end of what contractors are getting up here. What do you get payed or pay ?? 

different country so irrelevant. Probably the equivalent of 250-300. A few years ago now though 
the two good subbys I had I wouldn’t have batted an eyelid if they upped their rate 20% over night. might not have been as many 1pm finishes though!

the bearably average guys wouldn’t have gotten any more work had they asked for even 1%  though.

 

tree works not rocket science, you don’t need to be clever or have a degree, it’s simple, grubby, grunty manual labour. 
 

 

there’s no such thing as market rate, just the balance point of a climbers productivity/money. 
 

it might just be that your productivity is only worth £200 a day. 
If you’re able to get shit done more efficiently/quicker there’s no reason the employing company can’t get through more work that day and therefore pay more. 

Just like bringing a machine to site, you don’t necessarily charge more, but you get the job done quicker so can do another job that day, upping the daily turnover.

[Mike Hill]

Imagine you are a former formula one mechanic,moaning that your not getting paid your worth at the local garage fixing Tracey's Corsa.

 

If tree work in Scotland doesn't pay,move to Scandi.

[Mick Dempsey]

I wonder if there’s any trade related forums where someone starts a thread.

’We earn a bit too much money for our work don’t we?’

[Donnie]

41 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

I wonder if there’s any trade related forums where someone starts a thread.

’We earn a bit too much money for our work don’t we?’

They're called sparkies...

[Mike Hill]

51 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

I wonder if there’s any trade related forums where someone starts a thread.

’We earn a bit too much money for our work don’t we?’

Or

 

I can't believe how much I am paid ,because honestly I am quite dense.

[Mick Dempsey]

21 minutes ago, JDon said:

They're called sparkies...

Threads on its arse anyway so…

 

[Cain]

Check all the keyboard warriors. Don’t worry guys over £100,000 worth of kit will be on eBay soon fill your boots. My names Shug not Mug. Had already made my mind up just posted to see how others in the industry feel. I know plenty guys who agree with me. The industry not to mention the country is knackered. Time to invest my money and energy elsewhere. Stay safe 

[AHPP]

Can you post links when it's up for sale please.