poachers Problems with Trespassers, Fly tippers & Poachers?

[Johnboysevern]

4 minutes ago, Mike Hill said:

"Insurance to fire Air Rifles"

Jesus wept.

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[Steven P]

Not sure I would be making my first statement "fully insured" - I'd be operating in a way such that insurance is the last thing I'd ever need.

 

A sign is all good till you get a toddler out for a days walk wandering over your land (it happens every now and then), or a dog (happens all the time) - can't read and could be an admission that what you are doing is dangerous (same with 'Dangerous Dogs' signs, 'Dogs Loose' - an admittance you know they are dangerous, all it takes is a child climbing the fence to get a ball back....)

 

Not into air rifles... got an axe throwing range, the thrower has visibility as far as they can throw an axe for, there is no access to the sides (carefully cultivated brambles....), whoever is overseeing the session is trained and all are briefed. For what it is worth it is private land... but anyone can walk through a gap in the hedge... point is that they would be noticed and the session stopped.... and so far as far as "fully insured" yes, but a session would never get as far as that being a consideration for 3rd parties.

 

Perhaps a far better way to think, rather than "I have an air rifle range and am fully insured" but "air rifle range that we operate safely"

 

 

 

Just going off on one, perhaps too much red meat for dinner. Whoops

[Paul in the woods]

1 hour ago, Johnboysevern said:

Unfortunately we have seen evidence of poaching taking place in the woodland but unable to catch who they are as we don't live near our woodland and can not be there 24/7 as have to travel some distance to visit our wood. 

The Poaching that happens is being done by more than likely someone locally in the area.We also believe they could also be responsible for some minor fly tipping at the wood.

How do you know there's poaching going on and what are they poaching?

 

If it's a woodlotted wood is it likely to be your neighbours and have you spoken to the company that sold it to you? (I know some have restrictions on what can be done).

 

Sadly unless you get something like good CCTV or catch people in the act there's not much that can be done. Your signs might also encourage people.

 

In my case I've escorted a couple of well to do game shooters off my land, politely obtained the details of the shoot and reminded them of their boundaries. The local fox hunt was more of a challenge but once I got hold of the main person running it I've not had any trespassers with shotguns about. Basically getting to know the locals.

 

 

[Mike Hill]

41 minutes ago, Johnboysevern said:

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My god you are serious.

 

Leave.

[Johnboysevern]

Steven, Hi thanks for your post. With the insurance I have no sign saying fully insured at our wood, We do have a Sign Saying "Danger Rifle Range & Private", but I think that everyone who used Fire arms, Air arms, Archery, Slingshot or any other Sport that could cause harm you should be fully insured when doing these activities where the public may stray on to private land.

In this day and age, no matter how safe you make an area to protect yourself and others, its all was best policy to have insurance as accidents can still happen No matter your precautions.

 

Our Rifle range is Surround on all sides with high banks, Thick hedgerows and a farm fence and a private gateway. There is only one way in and that's through the gate. So very Secure.

 

It is also away from my main woodland. Where we have our Nature Conservation woodland.

What I am trying to say in the previous post is that People illegally accessing our wood with fire arms Hunt/Poach are a Danger not only to the woodland owners but also to other visitors & even other trespassers by firing there guns around freely in the woods without permition of the land owner who have the Sporting rights to the woods. We have set up a safe area for the sport & these Hunters are creating an unsafe place by there illegal activities. 

[Johnboysevern]

23 minutes ago, Paul in the woods said:

How do you know there's poaching going on and what are they poaching?

 

If it's a woodlotted wood is it likely to be your neighbours and have you spoken to the company that sold it to you? (I know some have restrictions on what can be done).

 

Sadly unless you get something like good CCTV or catch people in the act there's not much that can be done. Your signs might also encourage people.

 

In my case I've escorted a couple of well to do game shooters off my land, politely obtained the details of the shoot and reminded them of their boundaries. The local fox hunt was more of a challenge but once I got hold of the main person running it I've not had any trespassers with shotguns about. Basically getting to know the locals.

 

 

We found shot holes in one of our wildlife Refuge and shot gun cartages non of the other owners use shot guns we all are air gunners.We did have problems with the Local Fox hunt a few years back but wrote to them and our MP and they have stopped entering and go around the outside . The company that sold the land were not much help. I expect its a disgruntled member of the hunt as the wood no longer has access for them. More than likely hunting illegally. Sounds a good Idea might have to set some cameras up to catch them in the act so it can be passed on to the police. Though the local Police are not much help with Trespassers and not interested.

[Johnboysevern]

1 hour ago, Steven P said:

Not sure I would be making my first statement "fully insured" - I'd be operating in a way such that insurance is the last thing I'd ever need.

 

A sign is all good till you get a toddler out for a days walk wandering over your land (it happens every now and then), or a dog (happens all the time) - can't read and could be an admission that what you are doing is dangerous (same with 'Dangerous Dogs' signs, 'Dogs Loose' - an admittance you know they are dangerous, all it takes is a child climbing the fence to get a ball back....)

 

Not into air rifles... got an axe throwing range, the thrower has visibility as far as they can throw an axe for, there is no access to the sides (carefully cultivated brambles....), whoever is overseeing the session is trained and all are briefed. For what it is worth it is private land... but anyone can walk through a gap in the hedge... point is that they would be noticed and the session stopped.... and so far as far as "fully insured" yes, but a session would never get as far as that being a consideration for 3rd parties.

 

Perhaps a far better way to think, rather than "I have an air rifle range and am fully insured" but "air rifle range that we operate safely"

 

 

 

Just going off on one, perhaps too much red meat for dinner. Whoops

 

Not sure I would be making my first statement "fully insured" - I'd be operating in a way such that insurance is the last thing I'd ever need.

 

A sign is all good till you get a toddler out for a days walk wandering over your land (it happens every now and then), or a dog (happens all the time) - can't read and could be an admission that what you are doing is dangerous (same with 'Dangerous Dogs' signs, 'Dogs Loose' - an admittance you know they are dangerous, all it takes is a child climbing the fence to get a ball back....)

 

Not into air rifles... got an axe throwing range, the thrower has visibility as far as they can throw an axe for, there is no access to the sides (carefully cultivated brambles....), whoever is overseeing the session is trained and all are briefed. For what it is worth it is private land... but anyone can walk through a gap in the hedge... point is that they would be noticed and the session stopped.... and so far as far as "fully insured" yes, but a session would never get as far as that being a consideration for 3rd parties.

 

Perhaps a far better way to think, rather than "I have an air rifle range and am fully insured" but "air rifle range that we operate safely"

Edited January 7 by Johnboysevern

[daveatdave]

fly tipping is your problem as its on your land.

quite a few of the wood lots do not include sporting rights so whoever owns them can shoot them even when they don't own the land/wood without your permission 

[GarethM]

Trespass is a civil matter, made even worse if the land is public access, owned by more than one person or subject to a multitude of access to other areas or even neighbours.

 

That's not a it's all mine argument, but as Dave pointed out sporting rights would need to be documented. As you might be surprised what's not included in your contract of sale. Mineral rights, tree felling etc.

[Stere]

Fences can get stolen round here as some woods have the  slate fences & they aren't cheap. Also walling stone