sadiq

[manco]

anyone else think sadiq kahns being a prick? 

i dont live in londong and dont visit much, and its been a nightmare any time ive driven through in the past, but doesnt this ulez thing seem like a massive steaming turd?

whats his game?

im sure most cars now are compliant. so hes wasting money on cameras and such for a handful of cars that hes stopping?

anyone?

[Steve Bullman]

I think basically everyone does 

[Stere]

Nope I  think  the ULEZ is good overall & probably doesn't go far enough.

 

Air pollution  is damaging the  health of millions.

Edited December 30, 2023 by Stere

[aspenarb]

10 hours ago, manco said:

whats his game?

im sure most cars now are compliant. so hes wasting money on cameras and such for a handful of cars that hes stopping?

anyone?

 

Yep! Cost of the ULEZ/LEZ system was always going to have diminishing returns, with folk slowly shifting to compliant vehicles it will get to a point when the returns are so low the same tech will transfer to pay per mile.The motorist will always be a cash cow no matter who runs the show.

 

Bob

[Squaredy]

11 hours ago, manco said:

im sure most cars now are compliant.

Well I guess you have answered your own question - the policy has worked.

 

As for Sadiq Kahn - well he is a politician.

[Bob_z_l]

The whole cars are compliant...when similarly engined commercial derivatives aren't just highlighted in my mind hat it was nothing to do with pollution and was all about money. 

 

Even more...wen I used to work nights. I would take a VW Lupo Diesel in to work. It would easily do 70mpg and nearer 90 when in the 20mph zones...I'd be charged £12.50 before midnight and £12.50 after whilst using just a gallon of fuel to get there and back.

Conversely a friend down the road had an 09 Bentley. Compliant ! so he would burn several gallons on the same trip. Yet no charge. 
8 gallons of petrol vs 1 gall of diesel. doesn't make sense in my head. So therefore seems to NOT be about pollution.

 

 

Lastly living outside of the zone and working inside without access to scrappage or any of the other benefits. unfair

[GarethM]

Remind me again how many airports are in London. If you think it's all about pollution you're delusional verging on the certifiable.

 

Wasn't there a report that said the largest polluting thing in London was the tube.

Edited December 30, 2023 by GarethM

[Squaredy]

16 minutes ago, GarethM said:

Wasn't there a report that said the largest polluting thing in London was the tube.

Yes, of course the well known terrible pollution caused by electric trains. 

 

Actually do I know brake dust is a problem.  This is why they use wooden brake blocks in Paris (Poplar).

 

I used to go to school by electric (overground) train, and I was aware of how everything near the railway got covered by this horrible brown brake dust.  It was sort of hidden when Network Southeast was created in the mid eighties, but in the BR days it was horrible.

[Mick Dempsey]

I don’t like the bloke, but I doubt he cares much about the tribulations of some rural dwellers whose occasional forays into London are inconvenienced by forking out a few quid. 
 He is more focused on his populace, usually the poorest families, who live near major routes and suffer health issues because of it. 
 

[GarethM]

You may mock, but Sadiq has achieved nothing more than dramatically speeding up the death of a capital city, bit like Drakeford efforts.

 

Air quality has not improved because of him, it's the natural life cycle of vehicles slowly being replaced as they die, the same with any other city and town.

 

I could use the Manchester example, which would have been larger than London, for 3 hotspots at road junctions in an area of 500 square miles.

Edited December 30, 2023 by GarethM