Housing Crisis - a novel idea

[AHPP]

10 minutes ago, Dan said:

I can read it and haven't paid 

To each according to his needs.

Edited December 3, 2023 by AHPP

[Stere]

100 Years of Urban Housing Success

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Around the world, the cost of housing is destabilizing cities. In Europe, low interest rates meant to spur growth have caused...

 

[GarethM]

Do agree Sweden has it right to a degree, but at the same time it's paid for through government owned infrastructure.

 

Vatternfall being an example, 21 million SEK operating profits.

[john87]

On 29/11/2023 at 12:40, sime42 said:

Wowsers!. It was neither an April fools nor bear baiting.

 

Why's it such a bad idea, why are golf courses so great? Or are there just more golfers than I realised? If we've got to build more houses I'd rather they were built on golf courses or brownfield sites rather than farmland.

 

 

I think golf courses are about the ugliest most un-natural looking things you could imagine. I would much rather nice smooth tarmac and a Kart racing track.

 

john.

[doobin]

1 hour ago, GarethM said:

Do agree Sweden has it right to a degree, but at the same time it's paid for through government owned infrastructure.

 

Vatternfall being an example, 21 million SEK operating profits.

You mean…like a nationalised company? 
 

I thought socialism never works?

Edited December 4, 2023 by doobin

[GarethM]

It's an international company, which you can't buy shares in even though they own 10 of our wind farms.

 

Granted you'd say it's socialism helping it's population, yet the Chinese state much of our infrastructure, yet their country is still classed as developing world. So that falls a little flat.

Edited December 4, 2023 by GarethM

[Steven P]

3 hours ago, doobin said:

You mean…like a nationalised company? 
 

I thought socialism never works?

 

I can't understand why governments can't own a company out right, but why they can't own that company as a profitable company.

 

Lets say they bought all of National Grid, it makes a profit, keep the regulators with the same power... and the profits... straight back to the treasury instead of to some rich American insurance company. Could do the same and set up a wind farm company, profits back to the us, or perhaps set up a solar panel manufacturer, make no profit but we can buy them cheap for our homes (and with that, deliver their net zero carbon stuff)

 

 

I don't understand why they can't use our taxes as investments and make more money

 

[doobin]

9 hours ago, Steven P said:

 

I can't understand why governments can't own a company out right, but why they can't own that company as a profitable company.

 

Lets say they bought all of National Grid, it makes a profit, keep the regulators with the same power... and the profits... straight back to the treasury instead of to some rich American insurance company. Could do the same and set up a wind farm company, profits back to the us, or perhaps set up a solar panel manufacturer, make no profit but we can buy them cheap for our homes (and with that, deliver their net zero carbon stuff)

 

 

I don't understand why they can't use our taxes as investments and make more money

 

That’s basically Nordic socialism as I understand it. 
 

We sold our North Sea oil rights. Gone. Norway created a sovereign wealth fund with theirs and reap the benefits to this day. 

[doobin]

11 minutes ago, Big J said:

 

And the income from the north sea that was taken was used to fund tax cuts. Typical British short-termism 😞

Why am I not surprised? 

[Mike Hill]

1 hour ago, doobin said:

That’s basically Nordic socialism as I understand it. 
 

We sold our North Sea oil rights. Gone. Norway created a sovereign wealth fund with theirs and reap the benefits to this day. 

The oil fund is probably one of the largest hindering factors in Norways social development. 

 

Imagine a rich kid with trillions in assets,blowing his allowance on horse racing and crypto safe in the knowledge next month a new check will appear in the mail.

 

The oil fund ironically subsidises alot of the renewable energy initiatives here,that's really a " jobs for the boys" program, much like the 50% subsidiary on electric vehicles which served to only increased the sale of Teslas 400%.

 

Despite being one of Europe's leafiest country's, Norway imports the bulk of its firewood because Labour costs here are to prohibitive .